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Old 02-22-2014, 05:16 PM   #61
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I agree with not dumping fish in after adding the product, especially as the TV shows appear to do. With Tim's, they say you can use a fish as the ammonia source, but the ammonia they sell is not expensive and you can't control/dose with a fish.
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:17 PM   #62
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This is a good read on the subject Fritz did from a scientific stand point.

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Gregcoyote - the op asked for other people's experiences with the product and I shared mine. That's all. I don't use it because I saw it on some TV show. I'm endorsing it because it works.
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Just trying to bring some facts to the table. I have tested it too. And I don't accept everything I read on a vendors web site. I like to read other views as well. Tanked was mentioned as some sort of an example on how to start a marine tank. They aren't IMO. Bacteria in a bottle, or infusion of live rock, I would go with the live rock method and not be in a big hurry. The OP asked for opinions, this is mine.
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I had never heard of this product until I saw a video that Mr. Saltwater tank tv put out. Honestly, with his endorsement I am sold on it as a viable product. Which, with my overly skeptical view on just about everything newly released for aquariums is a fairly uncommon thing.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:42 PM   #66
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I agree with not dumping fish in after adding the product, especially as the TV shows appear to do. With Tim's, they say you can use a fish as the ammonia source, but the ammonia they sell is not expensive and you can't control/dose with a fish.
If you buy one and only.... they will send you the ammonia for free if you ask..... that's what I did and got it with my order for free....

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I am okay with the whole idea, but implementing requires you to get a bottle with a majority of live nitrifying bacteria. The trick with this stuff is getting any shelf life out of it. The first bottle of it I tested I put under the microscope and found only about 25% viable cells the rest were dead. They say in their advertising they have a method for keeping the cells alive, but that's not what I found in my sample. There is die off in the bottle, the longer the supplier had it on the shelf, the more die off. The concept is solid as a rock, I just think the delivery mechanism could be better. Probably needs to be bought direct from Dr. Tim rather than a middleman supplier that stored it.
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I always buy directly from him. That way I know I'm getting fresh product that's been stored properly.
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I purchased it directly. Worked as advertised.
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That is also how I got mine.... and I will see how well it does....

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