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Old 11-03-2006, 05:26 PM   #51
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Also, they already have algae growing on the sand, this is a good indicator the tank has finished it's cycle.
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Well, because we'd been out of town quite a bit in November, we decided to wait 'til everything calmed down before adding fish.

So! This weekend will be "add the first fish" weekend!!


Considering our stock list on the first post (which I need to kind of tweak), which fish should we get first? I figure we'll add two fish this weekend, wait a couple weeks, then add two more, and so on.


I figure we should get two of the following first:

blue green chromis
royal gramma

MAYBE a dwarf angelfish?


What's a good 'first fish'? I figure we'll wait to add clowns 'til we upgrade the lighting and the tank is more mature so we can get an anemone.

Take care, all! We'll have pics by the end of the weekend!
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Your tank is big enough and established long enough that I think you could get all 5 chromis without a problem. They are docile and active (which will help draw out newbies later on). Then I would add the clowns. Dont worry about adding them with the anemone (I believe your suppose to wait a year before adding it). My royal gramma is very territorial and has chased every new addition thats smaller or equal to it. I think the angel is also be too territorial to add first.
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MAYBE a dwarf angelfish?

If you ever plan on going reef this might be a bad idea IME.
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Who wants to look at a dead shrimp?
welcome to AA. please do not cycle with live animals, it is cruel, and painful. this is not an opinion, its a fact
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I agree on the Dwarf Angelfish verdict. They are beautiful, but most are not reef safe and will nip at corals.

Can't wait to see pictures, btw.

I also think the Chromis would be a good first addition. They are hardy and docile.
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Well in order to cycle a tank you need some kind of fish in there, damsls are usually the starter fish.
I believed the same thing for the last 30 years and have always used feeders to cycle my tanks.
This used to be the accepted wisdom, but just like most of the knowledge base in this hobby, has been revised and updated over the years.
Imagine my surprise when I first learned about doing a "fishless" (and more humane) cycle just this year.
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The Chromis would be an excellent first addition.
No worries about them becoming territorial, and hardy enough to better survive any mini-cycles from increasing the initial bioload or die-off from adding more LR.
They're also active and visible enough that they should satisfy your need for "life" until your tank is ready for the next addition.
Awesome looking tank.
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Muahahaaaaa, I'll play devils advocate *puts up flame shield* and agree that although the probability that a dwarf angel will pick at corals from time to time, I personally cannot imagine having a reef without one (if aquarium size allows). IMO they pose the same threat as do other "reef safe" inhabitants.
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Lol, Innovator. I love the Devils Advocate. I agree with you though, I fought with myself for a long time on whether to chance a dwarf angel or not, becuase I really, really, really like them... such a tough choice. I have heard of them devouring corals, I've heard of them not touching a thing. I wish they sold "proven reef safe" dwarf angels.
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We'll hold off on the angel, then, until we figure out whether or not we're going to go reef. Butterflies are not reef safe, either, IIRC, correct?

Are there certain corals that are more prone to fish-picking than others?




And it seems to be the general concensus that it would be okay to go ahead and get all 5 chromis tomorrow? And then what? Make sure all the water tests remain stable, and do water changes every other week? Wait a month before adding another fish?


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