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Old 12-09-2009, 02:45 PM   #11
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So are these clowns a mated pair or two different types of clowns. Reason I asked is because two different clowns will not get along in a 55. I could not get two to get along in a 125 gallon tank. A mated pair you should be OK.
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Two ocellaris clowns. Bought them about 3 months ago, one is quite visibly larger so, 1 male/female combo, no anemone. They always swim together, don't see any aggression between the two. I just don't want to keep adding fish if these two are going to stay defensive and attack all the time.
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You`ll just need to get something bigger than them. As far as the tang I would only suggest a yellow or a yellow eyed kole tang in a 55. None of the others will work IMO.
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Old 12-10-2009, 02:13 AM   #14
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With the angel fish do you plan on making this into a reef tank or a fowlr tank because you have this post in a reef thread section not the fish only or fowlr if you plan to go reef i would stay away from angel fish its a hit or miss but most of the time they eat coral.
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I was planning on getting corals alot farther down the road I want to set up my tank with the fish first before I jump into corals. I do want to get button polyps, will these fish eat those? And if I just get a yellow tang, will it be fiesty enough to fend off the clowns? Or just make sure I get the biggest yellow tang I can find at the fish store?
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Well for a 55 you want to start with a small tang, the angels favorite coral to eat i believe is polyps lol and i think if ya get the tang you should be fine with your clowns my tang is the boss of my tank if anything tho you can take the clown out for a few days quarantine tank him then add the tang and clown at same time.
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Ok sounds good. Thanks to everyone for the advice
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yea. i would say he died. not too many predator emerald crabs out there stalking big game fish.
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Guys,
I went ahead and put a yellow tang in this setup that I had quarantined for about 2-3 weeks. He was eating fine, eating brine shrimp and flake food. I put him in one of those baskets that hang on the inside of the tank to acclimate him to the clowns and vise versa. I let him out after a couple days and the clowns came to inspect him, a little bit of cat and mouse for about 5 min then they left him alone. Over the last week I have seen no aggression towards the yellow tang, even when they go after the same piece of flake food. I have however noticed that the yellow tang likes to hide behind my live rock pretty well out of sight. What I also noticed was that wherever the yellow tang is, there is an emerald crab. The yellow tang gets so close to the crab that he is actually touching it and I did not see any aggression. Its face must have been 1cm from the crab’s claws. I have been watching over the last couple of days and have noticed small nips on the back fins of the yellow tang, still can't see any aggression in the tank. Now here is the weird part that I CAN NOT understand. Last night I watched my yellow tang hang around the emerald crab when I noticed the crab reach out. He grabbed a hold of the yellow tang and tore a small piece of fin off. Now I can understand maybe that the crab doesn't like his privacy invaded but what I can't understand is why they yellow tang keeps going back to the crab if it is quite literally picking it apart. He just kept going back, the crab would grab him, he'd swim away then come back. It's almost as if he feels he needs to be around the crab all the time ( Protection from clowns?) but at the same time I can't figure out why he would go back. ANY ideas guys, from what you have said, this should not be happening. Thanks for all your help.
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It's not necessarily that what you're describing shouldn't be happening... it's that what your original post was about (crab killing fish outright) probably didn't happen.

Crabs are opportunistic little buggers. If a fish is dumb enough to hang around one as it's being nipped at, then the crab is going to take full advantage of the situation. Crabs eat the easiest food available, and if your tang is handy, well...
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