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Old 03-07-2006, 01:24 PM   #1
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Evil Yellow Tang (Vegetarian Gone BAD!)

So I had the two tanks running... the 55 reef and the 58 reef. Well, the 55 reef was bought from some lady who "Lost interest" and let the fish degrade terribly. So when I sold the 55 reef, after cherry picking the corals out for the 58, I didn't sell the yellow tang with it, because it was in such poor shape. (This was night before last) Instead I threw it in my 58 for temporary residence until its fins grew back. WHAT A MISTAKE!!! This fish turned out to be so agressive I couldn't even get near it. It tried to spike everything in sight, including corals. It terrorized my poor little 5 line wrasse, and the blenny went into hiding so deep I thought it was dead until I saw its tail move today down in the rockwork. So last night, I saw my six line down in the rocks, hiding out. Perfectly fine, a little tattered on the fins, but no real signs of damage. Then this morning, I woke up, went to check the tank, and found... my six line wrasse. Dead. Spiked through the face. And there's no doubt it was the yellow tang... it was obviously damaged from tang not predator, and I haven't had any mantis shrimp in over a year. And the tank is fine, all parameters just running great, no inverts in distress, everything normal but the dead fish. (it was so freshly killed its eyes weren't even glazed, I think the lights coming on might have been a point in it happening, cuz the wrasse would often dart around when the lights kicked on, maybe it darted by the tang and got nailed)

So the tang is on time out in the sump, I'm going to email the guy who bought the 55 and offer it to him first, then if he don't want it, take it to the LFS and have Ryan throw it in his gigantic sump.

As a tail note to this... I have around 2lbs of gracilaria in my 58, green ulva, and a few other macros, and I kept nori and purple sea veggies clipped in there too. There was no lack of appropriate food for this dang tang. This was just the freakiest thing... I can tell you, I like tangs, but this really turned me off on yellow tangs. That six line had survived so much!!! To be killed by a sea cow! What an ignominous ending! Then again, many the buffalo tangled its horns in a would be hunter. But the 6 Line was no danger to that hurkin big yellow guy. GRRR.
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Old 03-07-2006, 01:46 PM   #2
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I have never had a yellow tang, and this seals the deal for me. I will find other ways to deal with algae if it ever becomes an issue. I am sorry to hear about that.
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Old 03-07-2006, 01:56 PM   #3
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I didn't sell the yellow tang with it, because it was in such poor shape.
In this case I would ask myself do you blame the tang becuase he is so mean, or the person that led him to be mean
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Old 03-07-2006, 03:21 PM   #4
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Okay, for one, I don't think there's much psychology in a fish. They have a pretty basic sense of instincts... eat... fight... screw... swim away... get new territory. This fish was in the get new territory and fight mode. I don't "Blame" the fish. I don't "like" or "dislike" the fish. I recognize the fish for what it is... an obnoxiously aggressive yellow tang. I don't think too highly of the woman the fish came from, or of anybody who lets live animals suffer, and believe me, if you saw this tang, you'd be pretty outraged too. I don't believe that the fish has motives of revenge though, or of "being mean." It's an aggressive fish, and it showed aggressive behaviors. So it's leaving my tank. Simple, cut and dry, and completely devoid of attributing human like behaviors to a small brained animal. Lets draw the line between instinctual behavior and psychological processing of motive and reaction. I don't however, hold the last lady to own the fish responsible for the attack. If anybody is half way responsible, it's me, for feeling bad for the fish, and trying to rehab it instead of putting it in the freezer. It's plenty fattened up, it's been gaining fin back at a really good rate, so it's not that the fish was currently starving. It's just, flat out, an aggressive fish. And I don't have room in my tank for aggressive fish. I thought I was Doing The Right Thing by keeping hold of it and getting it back in shape, but whether or not I was, it's beside the point. The fish is causing harm to my other charges, and so it needs to go somewhere else to rehab.
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I have 3 yellow tangs in my tank without issues.
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yeah, honestly, I've seen some aggressive tangs, but never THIS aggro. It tripped me out. It didn't seem that way in the 55. Maybe it was just the change of scenery. Maybe the new fish. It had a tank mate, a clarkii clown, the clown got fattened nicely and went with the 55, but I guess there hadn't been any other fish with them for oh, 3 years. The ex-owner had the system for 5 years, then got bored with it about half through last year. She didn't do any changes, checks, or maintenance in the final six months, and the fish were half starved to death when I got the tank. I had it just a couple months, and got all the water params back under control, the fish fed, and thought it was lookin good again. Sold it with a bunch of base rock from my 58's sump, some aquacultured live rock, and a massive bunch of mushrooms. This was just WEIRD. Does anybody else have any tales of murdering tangs? Maybe Steve-s out there has some insight?
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I think he will be OK once he gets used to his surroundings. I have a pretty big yellow tang and never had issues like that. and Andy ,dont let one yellow seal the deal. Most yellows are good fish and have a good attitude. Dont let one bad apple ruin the lot.
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I love yellow tangs. They are so friendly to other fishes. A few times when my dottyback attacked my fire gobi, my yellow tang with swim right between them to scare away the dottyback. It wasn't an coincidence because it happened quite often

Your tang is probably a hybrid XD jk
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I have a yellow tang and his tank mate is also a clarkii clown. He has his moments but all in all he is a great fish. The clown fish will even put him in his place from time to time which is actually quite funny to see. He is a bit of a show off and likes to swim right in front of where ever you happen to be looking. Which makes it hard to look at much else when he is hungry or wants attention. It sounds like this other tang just had a bad owner who neglected it. It's just like with any other animal that has been neglected; it needs some time to adjust and learn to trust again. Then it should be okay. If you have a quarantine tank I would quarantine him though because stress could really overcome him.
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I have a quarantine tank, but it is much too small for a tang. It's only 38 gallons, and this is no small fish. I feel bad enough about it being in my 58 (which is only 36"x18"x24") without throwing it in the quarantine. Also, since it doesn't have any diseases, and it's healthy other than looking like crap and probably having the fish version of osteoporosis, I really just don't know about throwin it in a bare tank. The q tank doesn't have the best of water quality for a already stressed fish, and sure, I could do water changes from my main to it, but I'm a little nervous about throwing the tang in the q when the q hasn't been in use for months. I feel better about it stayin in the sump a couple days until either the guy who bought the other tank takes it, or I farm it out to Ryan's 100gallon sump. I will probably get the q running if I can't farm this guy out in a couple days though. Good suggestion.

You know, I have just never seen a yellow soooo aggressive. Even in the sump this guy lashes his tail at everything that moves. Bizarre. Like I said... vegetarian gone bad. Heh. I gotta flick some of my vegan friends some crap over this!
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