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Old 08-29-2013, 07:13 AM   #1
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Foxface poison anemone?

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I already posted a link about my yellowfin coris wrasse as I have received incorrect advice from 3 LFS as I have bought my first marine fish in the past week or two. Forgot to mention I also have a foxface recommended by the LFS as reef safe and I have researched last night (after buying) and find out it's venomous!!! I am horrified and now scared to put my hand in the tank. I knew lionfish were venomous so there was no way I was buying one of them but am reading that it's a community fish and ok as long as it doesn't sting me

I have just looked at my normally healthy and vibrant bubble anemone and it has shrunk and looks all wrinkled up like it's dying. I did just feed the tank but didn't notice him. Would the foxface have killed him?

I just bought the foxface 4 days ago, lost a fish the following day ( thought it was because he had a small lump on his fin ) but now I know he is venomous I am thinking he is killing my tank?? We rang the LFS I bought him from and they said their policy was a refund of 30% even though they didn't tell me the drawbacks and said he was reef safe. They also sold us the blue tang and used the excuse "well you wanted it". I have a 167litre tank ie 2ft x 2ft x1.5ft and told them this.

I have a spare 60 litre tank I have been cycling that I could put the foxface in it in the meantime to save the rest of my livestock? I am so annoyed I feel sick.
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Old 08-29-2013, 07:41 AM   #2
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Saltwater Aquarium Fish for Marine Aquariums: One Spot Foxface

I dont think your issues are your Foxface, need more information on your tank, how long has it been set up, lighting, what type of water and parameters, and all inhabitants, neither the Tang or the Foxface can live in a 2 foot tank.
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:24 AM   #3
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The tank is a combination of two- I upsized (from the 90 litre which had finished cycling for about 6 wks ) and used the water from the 2nd hand established tank and mine and added new fresh salt water from the shop 2- 3 weeks ago . I had the water tested by 2 LFS to reconfirm my readings prior to buying fish. I test for carb hardness and the colour is within the range. I have another bubble who is thriving and hard and soft corals which all are doing great. The lighting is an Aqua One brand- 2 tubes- and the aquarium picked out new tubes ( Chinese brand ) suitable for the corals- one bright and one marine blue. It just seems weird that he had deflated all of a sudden?
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:36 AM   #4
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Saltwater Aquarium Fish for Marine Aquariums: One Spot Foxface

I dont think your issues are your Foxface, need more information on your tank, how long has it been set up, lighting, what type of water and parameters, and all inhabitants, neither the Tang or the Foxface can live in a 2 foot tank.
Forgot about the fish details- I will be listing my unsuitable fish for sale as the LFS is not accommodating. I have 2 clarkii clowns which hosted the anemone and another- they are trying to wake him up at the moment which is sad. I also have a dotty back, sailfin, blenny ( haven't read up on that yet as bought it y'day) and red corin wrasse/yellowfin (also bought y'day). I think the only fish I should actually have are the clowns, blenny and dotty back since I have researched but these were all advised as ok by different LFS after I gave them my tank dimensions, coral info and existing livestock. Can't trust them.

I will research fish suitable to smaller tanks and have an idea of what I should buy before I walk into an aquarium and get caught up with the colours. Mind you, I really do see myself buying a much larger tank within 12 mths if I have success with this one so maybe there are some I can keep if they are reef friendly?
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Just did a little dance....he's popping back up! So happy but would still appreciate advice on the tangs as the LFS said they grow really slow and will be fine in my size tank. Can I keep them for another 12 mths until I work out if I go bigger or find another home for them or do they grow quickly and need to go to a bigger tank now?
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:26 AM   #6
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It's best to re home them now and focus on getting livestock suitable for the size tank you have, tangs in particular are prone to disease so by keeping them you run the risk of them getting sick (ich is common) and taking everyone else out. It also sounds like you don't have the right kind of lighting to keep an anemone, they not only require very high lighting but also pristine, stable water parameters. They are recommended for established tanks. If you don't have test kits I highly recommend you getting some, even the API salt water master kit will do the job and a refractometer for measuring salinity. It's hard to find a good LFS you can trust for sure but its good you've found this site - so many experienced reefers to stead you in the right direction
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:29 AM   #7
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Foxface fish in my opinion are one of the most community friendly fish I've owned. As for reef safe, I've had no issues with it chewing corals. As for putting your hand in the tank, I'm willing to bet your fish hide the moment you out your hand in the tank.

I only had one fish ever hassle me and it was a baby clown fish. For whatever reason this guy thought he was 2 feet long and 10 pounds of tough guy.
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I have a foxface as well and have never had an issue with him and other fish or me when I'm in the tank. He nibbles at my hand if I'm holding seaweed but I've never seen him raise his spines at me.
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Just did a little dance....he's popping back up! So happy but would still appreciate advice on the tangs as the LFS said they grow really slow and will be fine in my size tank. Can I keep them for another 12 mths until I work out if I go bigger or find another home for them or do they grow quickly and need to go to a bigger tank now?
First the blue hippo, blue regal, yellow belly, or whatever other name they used will get to 18-24". They need a bare minimum of a 6 foot long tank. I keep mine in a 210 gallon 6 foot tank. Second, if you're using a two bulb t5 light fixture is be willing to bet your anemone problem is insufficient lighting.
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Fox face are fine fish for a reef. You would have to work at it to get stung and even then you would survive (all though it hurts like heck).

Research your new additions and don't listen to the LSF, they are there to pay their rent by selling you stuff. Some are honorable, some are not. Healthy tangs grow surprisingly fast.
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