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Old 03-23-2006, 09:59 PM   #11
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Ok here is the info that I could find on this type of skimmer it is:


For use in Saltwater Fish Tanks and Reef Tanks, Lee's® Counter Current Protein Skimmers help prevent toxic tank syndrome by removing proteins and other organics before they turn into nitrogen compounds or other toxins that may be harmful to aquarium inhabitants. Through ADSORPTION, protein and other organic compounds in the water form a coating around bubbles as they rise to the top. The resulting foam floods over the top of the foam riser tube and is captured in the collection cup before it can re-enter the aquarium. Easily adjusted, low maintenance protein skimmers come pre-assembled, with 2-way plastic valves and hanger included.
Item Total Minimum Size Tank
# Skimmer Tank Skimmer
Height Height Will Handle

17100 Small 12-1/16" 11" Up to 30 Gallons
17105 Medium 16-1/8" 14" Up to 60 Gallons
17110 Large 23-1/8" 23" Up to 90 Gallons

Advantages of Counter-Current:
Better Water Flow, More Effective Mixing, and Longer Contact Time
Water enters at the top of the skimmer and is drawn downward, using the full length and diameter of the Contact Chamber. When the bubbles produced by the air diffuser travel upward against the downward water flow, a spiraling turbulence is created. The turbulence causes air bubbles and water to mix for an extended period of time. This allows organics to be extracted more efficiently. Contact time is also increased by using the tallest Protein Skimmer that your aquarium will accommodate
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Old 03-24-2006, 12:15 AM   #12
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That's an "old-school" style skimmer. I also remember the ones like that which were completely open at the bottom. Just a plastic tube with an airstone in it that led up to the collection cup (dating myself hehe), but didn't realize they still made them like that. It definetly belongs in the tank though, and not outside.

EDIT: Realized that reply didn't offer much in the way of solving your problem. I did actually use those kind of skimmers in the past. They were always temperamental and seemed to require constant attention to make sure that they had enough airflow from the air pump to keep them operating. Make sure that you replace the airstone regularly. If I'm not mistaken, you can actually boil the wooden ones to clean them. Also, you need to make sure that the air pump is putting out as much air as it used to and replace parts as necessary. I think that I would get a new skimmer if I were you though. My main source of aggrevation these days is having to fool around with my skimmers, and that one is going to need lots of attention. They do work though if you don't mind playing with them all the time.
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:04 AM   #13
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Thanks everyone for the advice I guess it is off to the lfs again after work to buy a different skimmer. This is the one that my husband wanted to get he was trying to get by as cheaply as possible a couple of years ago when we had first tried our hand at a sw tank, and I just got so aggravated at it could not get the water levels correct although I think it was also the lfs (the ocean floor) that had caused us alot of our failures, so this is our second try. They kept telling us that we needed this stuff or that stuff to sustain a good sw tank, well now this time I am sticking with what everyone here and this other lfs store (aqua touch) is telling me since you guys and them are telling me the same things. Just again a big thanks for all of the info.
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Old 03-24-2006, 09:05 AM   #14
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You can get them much cheaper usually online than what the lfs sells them for.
A couple of good brands for your size tank would be:

Coralife super skimmer
AquaC Remora Pro
Nautilus TE-in-Sump Protein Skimmer
Bak Pak Skimmer

Skimping on skimmer quality only leads to wasted money as you are finding out.
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Old 03-24-2006, 11:00 PM   #15
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tecwzrd,
I just went online and found a coralife super skimmer for my tank, I should have it in about 1 to 1 1/2 weeks. Next I will need to up grade my lights, get more lr, then start on the fish and then corals. Thisis what I am planning on getting as far as fish:
1 or 2 cintron gobies
1 or 2 neon gobies
or should I go with something different?

Oh by the way I just went today and bought a banded coral shrimp, what would I need to feed him or her, since all I have is the clean up crew right now in the tank.

Thanks again for the help
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Old 03-25-2006, 02:40 AM   #16
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Just a word of caution! I also have the Deep Six Hydrometer, and found it gives me inaccurate readings! The only good thing is that it gives consistently wrong readings. My LFS keeps their tanks at 1.021, and so I was able to test my Deep Six in their tanks, and it gave me a 1.018 reading. So now, in order to maintain my 1.021 sg, I get my hydrometer to 1.018. If I were you, I would make sure your hydrometer is giving you accurate readings by comparing it to an aquarium that you are sure of the sg.

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pkremer, ok thanks for the advice I will see if my lfs will check it next time I go there.
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I think you will like the Coralife super skimmer, it took me a little while to adjust but I rarely have to touch it now. I use it in the sump but it is works as hob also.

I haven’t had to target feed my coral banded shrimp since it is great at catching food out of the water when I feed the rest of the fishes. It loves frozen (I feed marine cuisine mostly)
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Old 03-27-2006, 06:40 AM   #19
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If I have any questions about setting up or adjusting the skimmer could I send you a pm once I get it? I guess since I don't have any fish at this time in the tank I guess I will have to stop and get some frozen food to feed him, although it looks like he might be finding enough stuff on the lr to eat, but just dont want to take that chance.
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