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Old 11-02-2012, 10:33 PM   #11
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The setup is pretty simple: I have a Marina large Hang On Breeder Box, it hangs outside the tank and pumps water in via an air pump. I also have a secondary line from the return pumping a small amount of water via airline. I wanted redundancy to ensure decent flow and to prevent problems.

The last time I did this, I left out the stock air pump setup and just had the mod line from my return which failed & killed the fish while I was away - hence the redundancy.
I have a small length of PVC pipe for shelter and that's it.

In tank boxes work as well, but I found the mesh ones became fouled quite quickly.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:21 AM   #12
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When I give advice to new saltwater owners that announce they have bought themselves a mandarin, I refer to folks like you that increase the odds these cool little fish will live a happy long life. It isn't easy and it isn't trivial. Yes, there are the rare cases of Mandarines eating flake food and living in fish bowls , but 99% of them don't make it.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:46 AM   #13
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Great thread. I'd love to own one of these little guys eventually and will be looking forward to your updates. Good luck!
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In my opinion, all mandarins will eat prepared food, it's a matter of having a healthy fish to start, and putting your time in. You're training away from the instinct to eat moving things; thankfully survival is also a strong instinct. The big issue is that these fish are neglected through the supply chain, they're already in bad shape when we get them. That changes things greatly & that's why I gave this one a 4 day feast of brine shrimp nauplii.

I haven't seen any feeding yet so today I'm trying frozen blood worms. Yes they are freshwater food and not all that healthy, but the idea is to get it eating something prepared, then I can mix in better foods until I reach pellets.
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I agree. Use to own LFS. Finding a good source for fat mandarins wasn't easy. My son just got one of three that came in about 6 months ago. First fat green Mandarines I had ever seen. All of them are eating and doing fine, but they still love their pods. This lot of Mandarines was really unusual, because as you said, most of them are starving by the time we get them.
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:19 PM   #16
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Tank breeding is advancing with them, hopefully one day they will be as common as tank bred clowns. That would be a huge shift for the hobby - everyone loves them, not many can keep them alive. Hybrids would be pretty cool too.
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:28 PM   #17
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Just posting so that this goes into my responded post log lol.
Love this log, this will most likely help me in the future.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:32 AM   #18
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Ok, yesterday was the day, or at least the day I actually saw it. Dropped some brine shrimp in, he went right over & started eating. I suspect he's been eating the brine shrimp before this, but he's been to shy to eat when not alone. I think he's become less stressed and will likely progress through the feeding shift to pellets fairly quickly.
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He is now regularly eating brine whenever I feed without hesitation. Today I started mixing in Reef Pearls - .5mm-1mm coral pellets. In mixing the brine & pearls in Garlic Guard. Slowly I will feed fewer shrimp and more Reef Pearls until he's on them regularly. Then I will stop soaking them and mix in NLS 1mm finicky eater pellets until he's onto them. I'm hoping at this point he can hit the DT, trained onto pellets within the next 4 days bringing this exercise to about a week and a half.

I've not seen an explosion in my tigger pod culture that's been running for just under 2 weeks. Phyto is growing like crazy though.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:18 PM   #20
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Very nice and informative thread. Ive also been trying to train mine! He was gobbling up big live brine. When my brine get bigger, im going to mix them with the live. Hopefully it will work!
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