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Old 01-22-2003, 11:17 PM   #11
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It might be able to be placed into the stand from the top, or the support bar can probably be removed and put back fairly easily. Is your husband the least bit handy?
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Old 01-22-2003, 11:18 PM   #12
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BTW, if it can fit in the inside demensons of the stand, it can be gotten in, there is a way...it's just figuring out the best way.
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Old 01-22-2003, 11:26 PM   #13
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It will violate the warranty, but I am wondering how big a deal that is at this point.

We will see how easy the bar is to remove tomorrow when it gets here.
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Old 01-23-2003, 06:46 AM   #14
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I imagine he cannot sell the 55 gallon sump
Sorry just noticeed this,,,he should be able to return it to his distributor for a full refund and get the proper sump. And then as Aaron said, get you some cash back.
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Old 01-23-2003, 04:08 PM   #15
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Heya!

I was thinking you could remove that brace and then replace it when the sump was installed... but now that I think about it, your stand is not wood is it? Is it that beautiful black glossy acylic?

Oceanic should really make the size trade with you. And the little bit of a price difference should pay for the shipping. Have you heard anything from them? Also plumbing the bigger sump to the side, or though a wall will work fine.

Its really just what you want to do! If you didn't want to mess with the Oceanic sump, replacing it with another sump doesn't have to be difficult or expensive. Really any ol' tank will do. In fact some people are using food safe tubs from Rubbermaid! I can come up with some pics if you like.

Our ugly 45 gallon sump is WAY overkill on our 90 reef. I never worry that it will overflow when power fails. So really, you have tons of options!

This months edition on Reefkeeping Magazine has a nifty article on sumps. Its crAzy what some people come up with! But it just goes to show, your sump can be just a place to put a skimmer, some heaters and carbon.... or it can be a mini refugium with baffles and a mangrove farm!

Keep us posted! Gabe and I would love to lend a hand! We have tons of plumbing bits and glue! =P
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Old 01-23-2003, 04:27 PM   #16
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I would have the sump as low as possible beside the tank if it wont fit.


The reason is that I discovered myself that when I bult my sump stand for the room behind the tank. I managed to build it just a bit to tall and the bottom of the overflows ended up being about level with the top of my sump. The result was that I was not getting a good drain action from my overflow to the net GPH that my overflow was doing was less than my pump was pushing.

I lowered my sump by 2 feet and that allowed the drain on the overflow to pickup and it could then keep pace with the pump pushing water back up to the tank.

If you use large diamater plumbing having 90 degree elbows in your return plumbing will affect the pumps performance less. Try to make your drain lines as stright as possible. obviously if the sump is to the side they will have to have a slight bend to them but try to make it as subtle as possible.

Caint wait to hear and see pics of this new stuff.
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Old 01-23-2003, 05:15 PM   #17
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Keep us posted! Gabe and I would love to lend a hand! We have tons of plumbing bits and glue! =P
That is a pretty generous offer!! From the quoted portion it sounds like you know each other, in any case I applaud your generosity and give you 50 kudos, if you do know each other and Hara sent you over let me know...I need to send some kudos her way as well!!! Welcome to AquariumAdvice.com
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If possible post some pics of the stand interior. It might help us all with suggestions. I know I would not want to put a sump next to a beautiful tank like that. Using large diameter pipe is good to get the efficiency out of your pump and if long sweep bends can be used that will be better then standard elbows. They produce more of a laminar flow vs turbulent flow which means less loss due to friction.
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Have You thought about threatening and taking him to small claims court? With just the threat, maybe he'll just give you the right sump for the tank instead of having to put one together or buy another one. I would bet the courts would rule against him since he told you the sump went with that tank and it didn't. You're right he should know his product before selling them. What he did was false advertising. He said it was a complete package and it isn't.
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Yes! HI CASIE!
erm...welcome stranger

Casie is a friend, with an absolutely gorgeous reef that I got to see for the first time this past weekend...Totally awesome. (fork over the kudos guys)

Anyway, the tank was just delivered...gee, guess what, it has a little chink out of the front left corner of the glass.....the sump did not come with it, he could not fit it in the truck. Upon further box openings, the top right corner glass is broken and the hinges to the doors, nor the sump plumping managed to make it to the store yet. He told me it will be there within two weeks...oceanic said they will not do trade ins on the sump. I think that we will be able to make it fit if we remove the front support that the doors will close against.

I think the gods are trying to tell me something...but hey, I am hard of hearing to nasty little deities like Loki.
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