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Old 12-19-2012, 07:08 PM   #1
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Help with SPS color.....pics

Well I said I was going to start another thread to find the cause of my problem well here it is! Here is a complete run down on my 55g Reef tank. I need help getting colors back in corals. I have included pictures below along with a list of equipment and test results. All tests were done today; all tests that could be calibrated were before tests were done so everything should be accurate. SPS were placed in tank July and some in August put them on bottom of tank in sand bed for 1 week then started moving them up every few days till I glued/epoxy them down. All SPS are growing most have covered frag and started growing on rock not really growing upwards. The Frogspawns were my indicator that light might be a problem because the branches under other branches have more color. I have notived polyp extension at night but not during the day. Light cycle is shown below with lights. Hydor’s run min-max on a 2sec interval. I do a 5g water change on Sun and one on Thurs. I make up my water once a week in a 20g Brute, with a heater, power head and air stone. I mix 10g at a time of Kalk 2tsp per gallon for top off water that’s added at night over a 7 hour period kicks on for 9min every hour and is added to chamber with skimmer. I also add 23mL of Vinegar runs for a few minutes a couple of times throughout the day. I change out GAC and GFO every 2 weeks. I feed a variety of foods every other day frozen Brine Shrimp, Mysis, Flake, Pellet, a frozen mix of several types of fish and Selcon. When I feed frozen I feed 1 cube. Every 3rd day I add one spoonful of BRS Reef Chili for corals. I vary that one day I do it in the evening and the next time I do it at night around 11pm. I change bulbs out every 12 months it’s time next week. I add 1 cap of Microbacter 7 every week. I think too much PAR might be a problem but could be something else as well. So I am looking for help trouble shooting the cause. Please feel free to ask any questions especially if I have forgotten anything. Sorry for the long write up but I really want to fix this and have the beautiful SPS some of you have.

Tests
Temp 78
Salinity is 35ppt ALC Refractometer
PH 8.1 Handheald Digital MW
Calcium 450 Red Sea Pro
Magnesium 1480 Red Sea Pro
Alk 9.56 dkh Hanna HC
Phosphate Hanna ULR HI 736 reads 14 which converts into .04
Strontium 2 (never can get it any higher) Salifert
Iodine .06 Red Sea Pro
Iron 0 Red Sea Pro
Potassium 410 Red Sea Pro


Equipment
55g Aquarium
20g Aquarium for sump
2 Hydor Koralia Controllable 4’s
Hydor Koralia Wavemaker 2 with Day/Night Sensor
Current USA HOT5 Nova Extreme Pro 48” 6x54w
1 ATI True Actinic
2 ATI AquaBlue Special
1 ATI Coral Plus
2 ATI Blue Plus
1st set of lights on at 9:30am till 7pm
2nd set comes at 11:30am till 8pm
Warner Marine MF181 Skimmer
1 Phosban Reactor 8tbs of BRS GAC ROX .08
1 Phosban Reactor ¾ cup BRS HC GFO
Mag Drive 3 Return Pump
Finnex 300w Digital Heater in Sump
Salt SeaChem Reef
1 50mL BRS pump adds 1g of Kalk over 7 hours at night
1 1.1mL BRS pump adding 23mL Vinegar a day (bring it down 2mL from 40mL per week since Nitrates are 0)
Various Macro’s in Sump along with 4” sand bed
4” sandbed in DST
65lbs of live rock

Fish Livestock
2 Green Chromis
1 Maroon Clown
1 Six Line Wrasse
1 Royal Gramma
1 Diamond Gobie













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Old 12-20-2012, 07:41 PM   #2
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WOW not even a 2 cents worth?
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:59 PM   #3
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Frankly, maybe everyone is stunned. I mean usually people are like "my levels are good" perhaps it's too much info?! Lol

I am sure some one with more experience then I will have something to say
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Frankly, maybe everyone is stunned. I mean usually people are like "my levels are good" perhaps it's too much info?! Lol

I am sure some one with more experience then I will have something to say
Right! I was kinda thinking the samething as I was posting it. Usually people don't give enough info and I have posted it all looking for help. LOL
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:14 PM   #5
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It may just be simple overfeeding. It really sounds like it. Your tank is very well outfitted with lights and filtration. Try shelving your flakes and only feeding 1/2 a cube of frozen food and half of the dry food you normally use for a few weeks.

It could also be to much light. You can try cutting back your midday lights by two hours, though I think it's likely high light "mixed" with available excess food in the system. SPS corals show their best colors under strong light and nutrient poor water.
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How could it be overfeeding? Nitrates are 0 phosphates are .04 no algae in tank
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All food has fillers that suppose to keep everything together and give it shelves life. Flakes has more of it, I used new life spectrum and omega one. Even the frozen cube that you put in the tank has stuff we don't want that could be causing your problem, I usually thaw the frozen stuff in a container then drained the unwanted liquid out. I also dose with vodka only and do not use vinegar. Hope my 2 cents help!
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Have you tried moving the frags up or down? I had/have issues similar with my SPS under my Radions. I lowered the intensity on them and have had improvements. The interesting thing is everything besides lighting matches my system besides not having the alk problem that I do, down to the reef chili. I would try to move a coral and see how it reacts.
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Im betting on light being the issue here, placement may need to be messed with on many the frags but i would start by moving them down.

Also how old are your bulbs? Just looking at your bulb setup it looks like you have a good amount of blue lighting. Blue light will penetrate deeper so its entirely possible they are getting cooked.

Start by moving a few frags down and see if there is a noticeable change in color in a couple weeks. Doing a nice large water change will also help balance out trace elements that might have gotten out of wack. Not hard to do when dosing.
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It is time to change out my bulbs they are 10 months old I am ordering them next week hoping BRS has a after xmas sale. Some of the corals are actuall on the bottom of the tank. I am thinking of changing my light cycle once I get back in town after xmas when I can watch the tank to see if they are to bright. I am going run 2 bulbs for 2 hours then run 4 bulbs for 4 hours the cut back to 2 for 2 hours and see what happens. Water changes I change out 5g twice a week so trace should be in balance. Sunday I did my 6 month tank cleaning and changed out 15g
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