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Old 05-18-2005, 08:39 PM   #1
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How do I know when to add corals ??

My ph is 8.2 - amonia 0 - calcium 360 - 400, nitrate between 10-20 on color chart , nitrite 0
-- it has been up and running since February - I do 10% water changes once a week --and nitrates still aren't zero -- I feed once a night - a few flakes ,a small 2 inch square of red seaweed , and shrimp pellets for the shrimp -- How will I know when the tank is ready for corals? I have no problem waiting longer if I need to -- Di I have to wait till my nitrates are zero?
Let me know if you need any more information -- Thanks for your help -- this site has been so much help
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Old 05-18-2005, 08:53 PM   #2
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If your nitrites are not gone yet you arent ready for corals or fish or anything...


Nitrates will not go to 0 for a long long time, and only then MAYBE if you have lots of LR and a deep sand bed.

The good thing is you dont have to wait for nitrates (although I would wait a couple months before adding hard to keep corals)
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It would be a good idea to do a few water changes to see about getting the nitrates down some. Below 10 ppm is a decent goal for a new tank, zero being ideal but not necessary. Fish and mobile inverts will tolerate the nitrates for the most part without issue.

As far as corals are concerned, most softies are quite tolerable of nitrates to a certain degree. You should be safe to start adding hardier leathers, colts and shrooms, mabye even some less exspensive zoo's.

General rule of thumb is once the tank is stable, softies at about 3 months, LPS at about 6-8 months and SPS and clams after about a year.

What type of lights do you have?

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According to your listing you only have 45 lbs of LR in a 72 gal tank. Should have at least 1-2 lbs per gallons. Remember LR and sand are your biofilter. You probably don't have enough LR to handle your bioload. Before you get corals, I would get more rock (base or live). BR will become LR in the tank.
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Old 05-19-2005, 11:15 PM   #5
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Thanks for all the help. I will keep doing water changes and will add more live rock before I add anything else to the tank. I am not sure what the lights are called I have one blue and one white flourescent. The lights came with the tank. How do I find out what kind they are? Thanks again.
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How do I find out what kind they are?
If they came with the tank, they are most likely NO fluorescents unless you bought second hand. In that case the wattage and type will not really be suitable for corals.

Look on the bulb itself near where it insets into the hood. It should give the the wattage, type and bulb model printed at one end of the bulb.

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I have a Power Glo 48" / 119.94 cm 40 watt and
a Marine Glo 48" / 119.94 cm 40 watt bulb.

Are these good for corals?

Thanks again for all your help
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Nope... those are Normal Output lights. Corals need a lot of light... that would only make about 1.1 WPG. Depending on the types of corals you want to keep, consider investing in PC/VHO/MH lighting to bring up the WPG ratio. What corals do you want?

Those lights you have would be fine for a FO or FOWLR... but corals live off of sunlight and are very demanding. What is your budget for new lights? Let us know, HTH
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I hadn't decided on what types of corals or anenomes -- I had bought the whole tank setup lights and all for $500.00 -- What do good lights roughly cost?
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for this setup, most economical would probably be power compacts 4 times 65 watt per bulb 50 50 ratio.

run you about $225.00 and give you 260 watts just under 4 watts per gallon.

you could keep shrooms, softies like colt and leather, star polyps macro and coralline algae etc low to mid lighting requirement animals
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