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Old 12-20-2002, 02:50 AM   #41
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I hope I'm not straying too far from the original subject here. I wonder, after reading until my eyes are crossed (Yeah, Timbo...it ain't just you ), why a DSB works better than a plenum. I go to one site or read one book and they praise the plenum from start to finish. The next one advocates a DSB. To me, the theory behind each one is sound. I wonder if someone who has been there and done that could explain the pros and cons to each system? Just for the record, I have 4" of CaribSea Seaflor in my 10 gal. I was told by several sources that this probably wouldn't work due to grain size and the fact that it's such a small tank, yet my nitrates are 0. Since the days are counting down to setting up the 180g at the eye center, I've gotta figure out the best way to do it so that the nitrates don't get out of control.
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Old 12-20-2002, 08:00 AM   #42
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I will post a link to a thread in another forum where the two are debated.

http://www.reefaquariumguide.com/for...ghlight=plenum

That will really make your eyes hurt.
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Old 12-20-2002, 01:05 PM   #43
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Gee...thanks Kevin I don't think Excedrin is gonna handle this one. Great discussion though...I'll have to read through it several times to absorb it all I think.
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DSB/plenum

OK, I have read the whole post...7 pages...and have learned a lot. I recommend this to anyone who is thinking about setting up either system. The conclusion I have come to is that the DSB is probably the way to go for no other reason than it's easier to set up. Really great article with tons of info!
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Thanks too the help of everyone on this board I was very successfull in my change. I did have alot of silt in my tank for about 4 days but it cleared up in about 6 days.

Since the change my tank looks more like a marine setup. The CC just makes it look dirty. I will be using DSB always and recommend it to everyone. I bought the book The New Marine Aquarium and learned alot from it. If I would of read this book first I would of used a DSB to begin with. Oddly enough at the end of the book it gives some info. on the author and he lives just 40 miles from me! Very weird. He has done work at are nearby Pittsburgh Zoo.

Thanks again to everyone. This is the best source for all of your aquarium needs. I am a firm believer that you learn more by experience, and I think that's what makes this site so successful.
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Wow that was a long thread, I think I am going to be cross eyed for life
For those that use DSB's dont you think all you are doing is deffering maintenace up unitl the point when u need to do a tear down???? DSB/Plenums are very limited when it comes to long term and they only really process a small ammount of crud. I am kinda lost as to thier use at all.
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DSB/Plenums are very limited when it comes to long term and they only really process a small ammount of crud. I am kinda lost as to thier use at all.
This has been well proven throughout the years to be a very effective method of Nitrate reduction. Whether you use a plenim or not, the DSB 4 to even 10 inches as I am now seeing, the bottom of the sand is oxygen free so the bacteria that lives in there processes the Nitrate and turns it into Nitrogen Gas which bubbles up to the surface and is harmless. Most tanks that have a DSB show very little if any Nitrates present. Now, if you implement a Refugium that houses a good amount if macro algae, a DSB may or may not be needed. I believe that most DSBers have a fuge also. Some do not... IT really turns out to be a personal preference but, you can't argue with the continued successes of many people such as Dr. Ron and Eric Borneman who have done quite a bit of research and documentation on the subject...
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you can't argue with the continued successes of many people such as Dr. Ron
I have fallen out of the DSB backers, I can tell people how to set one up, but Dr Ron has stated that a DSB has a finite shelf life.
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Ok, I will agree with you on Dr. Schmuck, but Eric seems to be a bit more convinceable....
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I haven't read anything by Eric about DSBs in recent times. I know he was opposed to Dr Ron's metal toxicity theory, but nothing about DSBs.
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