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Old 06-14-2005, 11:11 AM   #21
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Do not dose anything that your not testing for....
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Old 06-14-2005, 11:13 AM   #22
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Well Alk has always been low,

I just havent tested for it in a long time because I really dont need Alk as of yet.

When I get some corals Ill start testing/dosing
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running a pet store is a lot of work. Folks come in and out all day long. some ask questions and want help, others dont ask questions but need help, others dont ask questions because they're well versed. Others are well versed and ask questions to "check" the merchant (yep, i'm guilty). Someone running a store has the make decisions on who to give time to and who will actually benefit from his time. Ultimately, he's running a store and needs to stay in buisness.

You asked questions because you wanted information. He's decided your one of the customers asking for help and care about the shrimp surviving so he appears to be working to helping you towards that goal.

so.. why don't you give him a call and ask again. otherwise there's nothing anyone here can help with in regards to "telling the lfs they're wrong".
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Old 06-14-2005, 11:14 AM   #24
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Well I dont want to argue with them they might jack their prices up to 200% the price of other people instead of 150%
There is always the internet.

put calcuim in your water and take a sample to the fish store to get it tested.
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Old 06-14-2005, 11:16 AM   #25
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Actually Ive asked questions I know the answer to as well (Like, What do seahorses need to live?) He actually said they are hard to care for, and told me why I shouldnt get one, lol.

I actually didnt ask him about the shrimp.

He kept asking for some water, I gave it to him.

A couple weeks later I went in to get a shrimp and he said "Have you added any XXXX?"
Of cource the answer is no, so he wouldnt let me...
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Again I say, please do not dose without testing.....

PS. Jason, he said it wasnt calcium afterall....
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Old 06-14-2005, 11:17 AM   #27
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Why not test your Ca levels, and Alk, then use some super buffer and liquid calcium to slowly bring it up ? I did this to my tank and it is now dead on the money on all parameters ive tested for.
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Oh so wait he knew you hadn't tested the water and asked you if you had added stuff to it then wouldn't let you get a shrimp because you hadn't added something that you didn't know you needed?

yeah you should probably get your own test kit and stick to the internet.
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Actually Ive asked questions I know the answer to as well (Like, What do seahorses need to live?) He actually said they are hard to care for, and told me why I shouldnt get one, lol.
I must be missing the joke. Seahorses can be difficult to care for and pretty much require a species specific tank...

more and more it seems like your lfs is trying to help you and give you the best chance at keeping this shrimp alive... and it seems that instead of making an effort to learn, you're trying to just get what you want and be done with it.
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Billy, of course, is right...everything I've ever read about sea horses state even the hardiest, easiest sea horse species still need a tank free of predation, and typically a species only tank, with less circulation than a reef tank.


Even if you don't have corals, you need sufficient alkalinity to maintain a proper pH for your fish.
Your LFS sounds like one of the most caring stores I've ever heard of. Even my LFS here will let a person buy fish 24 hours after they buy a new tank, because they need to turn a profit to stay in business.

Perhaps the question isn't "how do you tell an LFS they are wrong" and rather "how does one accept that the LFS might just be correct"...
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