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Old 07-28-2004, 06:45 PM   #1
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How many hermits/Snails?

Going shopping tomorrow for <hopefully> a couple of cleaner shrimps, maybe another peppermint & then some snails & blue hermits...

Firstly snails I'm thinking of just Turbo's as I believe the hermits should leave those alone? I'm thinking maybe 3 or 4 for my tank?

Secondly although I have a bare bottomed tank having a few blue legged dwarf hermits should be ok? Again how many? 3-6?

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Old 07-28-2004, 06:48 PM   #2
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I can't tell you how many...but I have 4 blue leg hermits in my 40gallon, and i was told that's not enough. I'm gonna get a couple more, some bristle worms, 4 turbo snails and a skunk shrimp.
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Old 07-28-2004, 07:24 PM   #3
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I can't tell you how many...but I have 4 blue leg hermits in my 40gallon, and i was told that's not enough. I'm gonna get a couple more, some bristle worms, 4 turbo snails and a skunk shrimp.
Thanks for that, my 30 uk is roughly a 42 US, so really I should be looking towards 6 hermits then? Have you got a bare bottom (not being funny!) or LS?

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If you have a lot of algae in your tank then get a dozen of each. If it's minimal then 6 of each should do it. I wouldn't get any less than that.

Also, there's never a 100% guarantee when mixing snails and crabs so try to pick out the larger snails and the smaller hermits. Don't forget extra shells too.
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Old 07-29-2004, 05:47 AM   #5
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If you have a lot of algae in your tank then get a dozen of each. If it's minimal then 6 of each should do it. I wouldn't get any less than that.

Also, there's never a 100% guarantee when mixing snails and crabs so try to pick out the larger snails and the smaller hermits. Don't forget extra shells too.
OK, I was more worried about the snails starving as I don't have much algae at all, but then lastnight was the first time I'd put the lights on, so I expect an algae bloom sometime soon!

I'll see what size the hermits/snails are today & go from there....

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Old 07-29-2004, 11:41 AM   #6
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I have 7 crabs now, and 3 large turbo snails (which I was told was 2 too many for a 40gal...that they'd starve?)
I"m just starting to get the wonderous brown diatom algae. This weekend I hope to get my timers installed so I can run both 96watt bulbs, 1 10k, 1 03actinic. Now if xoxide.com would just ship my freakin' moonlight LED's....
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Old 07-29-2004, 11:56 AM   #7
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Got back from the LFS just over 2 hours ago, they had no blue hermits

got 6 turbo's, but I think 1 is just an empty shell! gotta wait until the drip acclimate has finished before I can check.

Also got 2 cleaner shrimps, they are on shotglass acclimate & will be going in the tank in about 20 minutes

Also found that my peppermint has molted overnight/whilst we were out

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Old 07-29-2004, 12:18 PM   #8
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Got back from the LFS just over 2 hours ago, they had no blue hermits .
You can also keep an eye out for reef scarlet hermits (yellow eye stalks) and Zebra hermits (lefthanded). Both are reasonabely reef safe and probabley of the least concern to snails.

Also keep in mind that given the right mix of snails and a few select shrimp species, the crabs are not truely needed. About the only thing a hermit might be good for over a snail is hair algae and even then if you keep it manually pruned, the snails will eventually get to it.

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You can also keep an eye out for reef scarlet hermits (yellow eye stalks) and Zebra hermits (lefthanded). Both are reasonabely reef safe and probabley of the least concern to snails.

Also keep in mind that given the right mix of snails and a few select shrimp species, the crabs are not truely needed. About the only thing a hermit might be good for over a snail is hair algae and even then if you keep it manually pruned, the snails will eventually get to it.

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Thanks, turns out I have 3 empty shells!!!! so paid for 6, got 3 Have left them an "interesting" message on thier phone......

Thought I might add a couple or more crabs just for the interest factor rather than being a major part of the cleanup crew?

I think the strawberry gramma is gonna have to go back to the LFS tomorrow as well, he's harassed the hell out of the pepermint so that he won't come out from behind the PH Now he's continuely picked on the cleaner shrimps & picked the snails off the LR!

Not looking forward to trying to catch him in the morning 8O

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1 Large Feather Duster; 1 Hard Tube Coco Worm; Yellow Cucumber.
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I wouldn't be too upset about not getting any blue legged hermits. All mine did was kill all of my snails. I've been told that the scarlets are better.
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