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Old 11-02-2003, 01:49 AM   #1
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I Know, Everyone has Algae Problems, but...

Mine is awfull... I can't win, and have no idea what's up!

Here goes...

It's dark maroon and if I allow it to grow it gets long strands (hair? Filament?)... it is smothering my live rock, where I clean it off the LR is bleached white, ugh. I've got some ideas about what might be causing but I can't get it to stop... the crabs won't touch it, my lawnmower blennie doesn't want anything to do with it, in fact the only thing I've seen eat it was a cerith snail that went up a tank wall and left a trail...

I'm not skimming (new tank, old skimmer no longer works, I'm buying a new one this week) but the growth so fast and huge (long strands, covering everything in 3 days) that I don't expect that a skimmer would help a lot... I did a 30% water change with no noticeable change in growth rate. All the fish/crabs are doing fine, no corals/anemonies yet... I want to figure this out before I start killing stuff!

The water I use is from the Natural Foods Co-op, I checked with the vendor and they assure me that it's reverse osmosis, and filtered... I tested it myself for Nitrates and they are 0, but... could this be silicon? Or, phosphate? I don't have a test for those yet. (maybe I should, heheh)... I'm going to be really put out if my hippie water is made by liars!!!

Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated... this has been the easiest set up I've ever done (0 ammonia within 2 weeks, 0 nitrate within 3 weeks, GASP) but now, suddenly it's the late night horror show we all fear!!!

40 gallon (including sump)
45 lbs LR
40 lbs Arragonite
Hamilton VHO 10000k & true actinic (10 hours of white, 12 hours of actinic)
15 ceriths
5 nasas
2 bumble bees
15 hermits
1 green chromis
1 lawnmower blennie

HELP!!

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Old 11-02-2003, 03:57 AM   #2
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you only checked nitrates? what about calcium? ph? alk? how long do you leave your lights on? what is your lighting anyway? Dark red algae could be coralline but hard to say without seeing a pic. Check all tank levels first.
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Old 11-02-2003, 05:43 AM   #3
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I only checked nitrates on the source water I've been using (the aforementioned "hippie water" I'm getting from the natural foods store).

In the tank

amm 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 5ppm
PH 8.2

It's NOT coraline... I've done this before, had a few reefs in the past... seen this stuff before, usualy short blooms that last a few days... this is just going on for weeks now, and it's making it hard on my coraline to grow... Not to mention being obscenely unnatractive

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Old 11-02-2003, 07:26 AM   #4
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Sounds like a bad case of the dreaded cyano to me
I have a problem with the stuff for about 2 months now.
Mine started just like yours at first, covering just about everything and multipying to monstrous proportions, forming filaments/strands and everything. I do have a skimmer (Red Sea Prism) and phosphate filter media but this didn't seem to help me at first. It was just so confusing as all my water perams were good.

This stuff is a pain and the only thing that will get it under control is time, patience, regular water changes (syphoning as much of the stuff out as you go), also keep an eye on the amount you are feeding...nutrients can soon build up if uneaten food is left to decomp. Lighting also seems to be a factor and I am still trying to work this one out....my cyano seems to 'develop' during the day with lights on and seems to 'die back' during the night. Some advice on this would be appreciated....

I spoke to my LFS only yesterday and he suggested lowering my water temp to around 75 (all his tanks are at that temp and he doesn't have so much as a sniff of the stuff!!). I have now lowered my temp and keeping my fingers crossed that this helps.
BTW, I have also tried the chemical approach and this didn't even touch the stuff.

Keep us posted on how you get on, it would be interesting to hear how a fellow sufferer is coping. 8)

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Phosphate is a very good possibility as far as one of the fuels for this type of algae. Another thing is that its a new tank. New tanks go thru this as part of the maturing phase.

One thing you can do that will help is to syphon it out using a 1/2" diamater hose when you do your water changes. THis will remove it from your tank physically and help get it under control.

Another thing to do would be to get that skimmer working since one of the things that is fuiling the algae is the excess disolved organics in the water.
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Old 11-02-2003, 04:37 PM   #6
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Re: I Know, Everyone has Algae Problems, but...

Agreed with the above info but the water source is a concern.

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The water I use is from the Natural Foods Co-op, I checked with the vendor and they assure me that it's reverse osmosis, and filtered... I tested it myself for Nitrates and they are 0, but... could this be silicon? Or, phosphate? I don't have a test for those yet. (maybe I should, heheh)... I'm going to be really put out if my hippie water is made by liars!!!
Many commercial RO waters meant for human consumption are "re-mineralized" to prevent vitamin/mineral depletion in the human body. None are actually sold as what we would call pure water. Might wanna look into what's in it or demand an analysis from the seller. They should be required by law to perform a lab check on every run.

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too get rid of it you can use erythromycin, im not sure if you can use it in a reef tank or not but fowlr it will be fine, its no cure for cyano bacteria but it will get ride of it, you best bet in my opinion is too get a skimmer and do water changes and find the source for the problem and correct it there.
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would a sally-light-foot crab help?

i had green hair algae and it took care of it.

i don't know if that would help.

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Probabley not. The only real crab that has even a small chance of eating it would (might) be a reg legged species of hermit Cilibanarius sp.

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too get rid of it you can use erythromycin, im not sure if you can use it in a reef tank or not but fowlr it will be fine, its no cure for cyano bacteria but it will get ride of it, you best bet in my opinion is too get a skimmer and do water changes and find the source for the problem and correct it there.
However if he has an underlying problem, and uses erythromycin,
he will eventually end up with super, erythromycin resistent, cyano.

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