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Old 02-06-2005, 08:47 AM   #1
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I'm afraid of live rock!

A good description of my setup is here: http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=43104
I'd love more thoughts and ideas on that thread from anyone who takes the time to read through it!

I've been thinking about some of the reading I've done and the suggestions I've gotten in that thread, and it seems like adding lr would be a good addition, but I must admit that I find the idea a bit overwhelming.

How afraid of introducing harmful critters (mantis shrimp, worms) should I be? Seems like I'm reading a lot of posts from people having this type of problem. Also, am I going to need to invest in better lighting and additional additives / tests to keep growth on the rock alive? Will this be worth the hassle?

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Old 02-06-2005, 09:16 AM   #2
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Will this be worth the hassle?

yes yes yes

The mantis shrimp thing isnt as common as you might think and the "worms" more than likely are exactly what you want in your tank, bristle worms. you dont need additonal lighting for LR what you already have will be just fine.

do you have a dsb now or is it rock of some kind?
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Old 02-06-2005, 09:20 AM   #3
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From what I've been reading I'd be afraid NOT to use it, especially as it relates to nitrates and biodiversity.

When I get my LR, I'll be nervous, but I know my attack plan in order to minimize the risk of pests. I may not be 100% successful, but I've not read a SINGLE person who has LR complain that it was a mistake - pests and all.

I'll have tweezers, a spray bottle of salt water, an old toothbrush, a squirt of club soda to force mantis out of their holes, Joe's Juice, a couple of pointy wooden skewers, rubber dishwashing gloves, a masonry drill, hammer and chisel, and 2 buckets of SW and a powerhead ready to roll.

Bring 'em on!
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30 gal standard 55 lbs LR, 60 lb live sand, 10 gal sump/refugium. Urchin skimmer, mag7 pump, 3 x 96W PC combination 10,000K/actinic bulb, 2 blue LED moonlights
SG 1.024, temp 79.5, pH 8.4

Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

List of possible/likely newcomers:

Feather duster. PJ cardinal, Bangghai cardinal, Firefish goby, Clownfish, Neon goby, Yellow watchman goby, Orchid dottyback. Various corals.
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FWIW, I've never had a problem with my LR. I just put it in the tank and forget it. Never had problems with mantis and such, but there are tips to get rid of them before you add the rock (see recent posts on them) to the tank. It's cool to watch the coraline grow and other need stuff that comes from them. It gives the tank a more natural look (in my opinion).

Go for it, I would HIGHLY recommend getting it from www.liverocks.com. Tell them your concerns and they'll help you out.

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do you have a dsb now or is it rock of some kind?
I have about 2" of sand. Does this change my potential for adding live rock in any way?
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I have about 2" of sand. Does this change my potential for adding live rock in any way?

No. It will be fine.
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One thing I'm unclear on -- and I'm probably just misunderstanding: what kind of "life" (aside from bacterial) can I expect to find on my LR? I was reading about the different types of LR on liverocks.com, and some seem to come with corals -- won't this die off of I don't have the right lights, suppliments, etc? Or do I just buy it with the intention of it dying? I'm not sure I worded that well but I hope you follow me.

Also, what exactly is "coraline?" I assume that the name refers to coral... an algae I think? But must be it doesn't require coral? Um... is it showing that I'm a rookie yet?
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Some stuff will die off, Live rock is live because of the bacteria, however liverocks.com stuff has so much more, coraline algae (very pretty growth on rocks, sometimes different colors), feather dusters, tube worms, aptaisa (these you really don't want but they are easy to get rid of), even some crabs, and starfish, and shrimp. Now I'm not saying you WILL get all of this, but each time I ordered I have gotten a bunch of good stuff.
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IMO getting new LR is one of the most exciting things in this hobby. I feel like a kid unwrapping Christmas presents.
Can't wait for the next batch!! 8)
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