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Old 03-23-2003, 06:11 AM   #11
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Hey cal91666...you ever hear the expression that the true test of another persons intelligence is how much they agree with you? . And I thought my idea of the Pro Heat/Ebo Jager combo was so original 8) .
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Old 03-23-2003, 11:25 AM   #12
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I said pro heat filter, i meant heater. You guys got it though. I do have lights on, very hot ones, I am getting a small fan to reduce heat. Can I just get a small computer fan?
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Old 03-24-2003, 11:19 AM   #13
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Okay... So it looks like I should get a 150W pro heat II and a 150W Ebo Jager... sounds good to me...

Reef Ready has an overflow siliconed in the corner and holes drilled... no filter... But ****it... I just commissioned my daddy to build me a stand and canopy... That'll save me about $350

By the way.. The Light fixture was a cheap piece of crap so I was goign to exclude that anyway and get $75 off... The individual prices are actually decent $275 for tank...which is all I'm going to buy from them... the markup at LFS's is insane... like a Quiet one Filter for $179 instead of $99 at marinedepot.com ...
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At least you're doing research here b4 buying everything the lfs wants to sell you
It can be quite expensive buying everything twice
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Old 03-24-2003, 11:52 AM   #15
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The only thing I can't find is SouthDown Play Sand... Anyone in NJ/NY know a SPECIFIC Home Depot that carries it on a consistent basis?
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Old 03-24-2003, 12:37 PM   #16
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I'd probably go with 250w heaters instead of 150's. Or a 250 Pro Heat and a 200 Ebo Jager. That will get you in the 5-6 wpg range.
The markup at the LFS is high...probably close to 100%. The reason it's a lot higher is that the wholesalers don't have much better prices than the online vendors. The filter you mentioned for $99 probably cost the LFS $89 from the wholesaler. Then the LFS has to cover overhead (rent, power, wages, ect...) and still make enough of a profit to live on. I know it sounds ridiculous, but that's how it is. The power bill at APC, and it's a small store, is usually over $1000 a month. So, we have to sell about 10 of those filters and a couple of cases of fish food to cover that...then we can start working on the rent. I guess what it boils down to is what kind of service your LFS offers. Some of them want to get in your pocket and get you out the door. Brandon and I have both, at no charge, gone to customers houses to help straighten out a problem with a tank. I guess that's where you have to decide if it's worth paying the extra amount for the service you get. I didn't mean to give a speech .
Sounds like you're well on the way to having a very nice tank...hope to see pics as it goes together.
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Old 03-24-2003, 01:16 PM   #17
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Where r u in NJ? HD in Edison usually has it. Call the closest one and ask for the garden dept. That's where they have it and it's where the people who know what it is are. It took me 5 calls to 5 stores last month to track it down. I think it was the Hamilton store that had over 200 bags. The Bridgewater store was getting some in.
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Thanks.
I'm in Bergen County... but I'll go to Edison....

they all say the same thing.. they get it periodically, but it flies of the shelf
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You really should try calling the garden dept. at the local stores first. I know they tend to put you on forget, but if they have it or are getting it in tomorrow it would be wasted drive. Nice day for it though....
I called Edison, they only had 2 bags left this past Saturday.
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Well, the garden dept says they have about 20 bags left of Southdown, but it was a kid I just spoke to, not the dept. mgr.
Might be worth the drive after all.
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