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Old 05-31-2005, 09:59 PM   #1
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It was a fun three days... <sigh>

The Imperator arrived Saturday - acclimated perfectly, started eating gorgeously the next night and happily takes seaweed, Angel Formula, and Formula Two.

Tonight - the fourth night I've had him - he started hand feeding for goodness sake.

He is also now covered from head to tail in ich... or best I can tell. Nothing else in the tank has it nor has anyone had it. This comes as a complete shock aside from that voice in the back of my head saying "this is going too well, you've had no problems and this fish cost you a wad".

So... I'm feeling rather screwed at the moment on my options. I have no QT tank available and no chance of using copper in this tank.

I was photographing him at 1:30 AM with no signs of this whatsoever. 5 PM todayI go to feed them (when he started hand feeding - apparently just to twist the knife a bit more for me emotionally, I suppose) and realize he is covered in white dots including his fins, tail and eyeballs.

He was visiting the cleaner shrimp a lot last night (which led to the photos I posted that many of us have been chatting about) and now I think I know why. Of course I've not seen him visiting the cleaner tonight.

His behavior seems unchanged and, aside from the freakin' white dots all over him, I'd say things were perfect. Any chance whatsoever he's going to recover from this or am I about to watch my tank go straight into the dumper?

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Old 05-31-2005, 10:05 PM   #2
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I would recommend feeding garlic with his food every feeding. And selcon, is another good additive for the food. IF youdont have a QT tank this will be your best hope. That or you could go purchase a little 10gal tank and use that as QT. Sorry to hear about the ICH im battling it in my tank also. Good Luck.
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Thanks... I don't seem to have much choice but to ride it out and see what happens.

It's just irritating in a huge way. Everything seems to be going perfectly, finally get the fish I've wanted for years, have a great acclimation and then "blam". I thought I was beating the odds.

I have a little eye-dropper bottle of a garlic solution (it came with the system and all the other paraphenalia). How is this best used? I did a feeding already tonight, so do I hold off until tomorrow?

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Old 05-31-2005, 10:14 PM   #4
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I have to ask one thing as I think about it. Is Ich just a major curse just for those of us trying to keep the ocean in our living rooms or is it highly prevelant in nature?

Are we concentrating it and making the possibilities greater for our fish, or does Ich claim fish in the ocean with similar regularity?

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Well not sure about the ocean and ICH aspect but my guess is that its not as common in the ocean since its so vast and natural. I would feed him garlic just dropped onto the food and then add a little SW and mix around every feeding.
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If you dont treat him there is a very big chance that he will die. Go get a 10 gal qt tank or a rubbermaid container....Good Luck
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good luck aaron .. i pray your angel turns out allright.. and yes, QT is probably the only way to go... good luck.
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Well, when I said "making the chances greater for our fish", I meant greater chances of succumbing to it, not to surviving.

I just can't believe the degree to which he appears to have it in less than 24 hours.

The cleaner shrimp is riding him like a bronco tonight. I'm getting more pictures of it that I'm working on right now. I'll post them in a bit.

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Old 05-31-2005, 11:09 PM   #9
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Will a 10 gallon QT do the trick for a 4" Imp? Doesn't seem like a lot of room.

I assume I use water from the existing tank? What kind of filtration?

Basically, how quickly can I set this up? Is this a trip to Wal-Mart now at 10 PM for basic fishtank supplies or hit the LFS tomorrow?

How long will he stay in QT and what is the preferred treatment?

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I'm dealing with the same thing in my tank. You'll need a tank and a sponge filter. Take some biomedia out of your tank so there is no cycle in the QT. Then buy some copper. i'll be doing this tonight as well. I've learned my lesson. QT every fish before putting it in the main tank!
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