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Old 02-07-2010, 04:24 PM   #11
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Do you have two 1½" bulkheads? One leading to the sump and one for the return to the tank?
Where are the sump plans? I don't see them in this thread. How big of an isolated QT will you have in the sump area?
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:56 PM   #12
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Is the QT seprate under the tank or is it part of the sump (does it run through so it cintinous in the tank). If it is i can very much see why to be against it because it would just continue the disease you QT the fish for to the DT. If it is seprate then i think it is genius. And the price of this tank just gave me a minirature heart attack.
The QT will be a full time refuig when no new live stock are present. It has a pump which takes water from the intake chamber and pumps it into the quarantine/refugium and then overflows into the protein skimmer area. Before live stock is purchased, the dedicated filter for the quarantine is turned on and seeded with tank media. The pump brining tank water into the quarantine area is shut down isolating that portion of the system. After a month or two, when stock is determined to be healthy, the pump is turned back on, incorporating the segregated quarantine/Refugium back into the main system and the filter turned off.

I also have a light on this area as a safe place to put frags.

Like I said, it isn't ideal, but it will serve the important purpose of having some sort of quarantine. It was this or nothing. Plus, I get the added bonus of additional volume for the system when used as a refugium.
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Do you have two 1½" bulkheads? One leading to the sump and one for the return to the tank?
Where are the sump plans? I don't see them in this thread. How big of an isolated QT will you have in the sump area?
Yes, both bulkheads return and supply from the tank are 1 1/2"

The sump plan is in the very first post as a PDF attachment at the bottom. I
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Well, I am sad to say that I conceded the idea that the sump that I started to build before recieving the tank and stand is going to fit. I was hopeful, but after closely calculating size requirements, I have determined that it will not fit. Thus, I have started to redesign a simpler sump which will be berlin in nature and will hold 23 gallons of water during operation with a max capacity of 46.

I will no longer have an integrated water top off chamber or quarantine/refugium. Instead, I will dedicate other space under the tank in the stand for these components, though they too will sacrifice in size. The good news is, that the new design will allow complete removal of all equipment in the stand through the door. This is a huge added bonus as I didn't feel comfortable locking the sump in the stand with 150 gallons of water in the tank above.

Also on the good news front, all of my stuff came in from drsfostersmith. Its nice living close to Wisconsin as my orders come in a single business day and still are only 8.99 to ship anything. That Gen-X pump I ordered is HUGE, and heavy, thus well worth the shipping rate.

I will start building the new sump tonight, and when complete, all I need to do is finish plumbing.

I need to start researching my substrate and live rock choices as thats the only thing remaining before I am able to actually put a drop of water in the tank and start cycling.
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Old 02-22-2010, 10:53 AM   #15
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Alright... I had to take a little break from getting this tank started because I was studying for another Architecture Licensing Exam. Blah. Test over, back to the tank.

So as I stated before, I had to completely rebuild the sump. Basically, with the purchase of the additional acrylic, it would have been cheaper just to buy one off the shelf. Eitherway though, I got it built the way that I wanted it and used the most optimum amount of space under the tank.

Last night, I dry fitted all of the plumbing and just wanted to post a couple of photos to make sure nobody sees anything wrong. Hopefully you can see the photos ok. The sump is just a Berlin style, and I don't have the protein skimmer yet, but I left more than enough space for it just after the filter sock.

Let me know if you see anything before I start gluing this all in place.





Probably more 90 degree elbows than what is recommended, but with the limited space and the need to keep everything under the stand... hope this will be ok.

Ready to get this all glued together and start filling with RO water. Reading those instructions now.

Let me know if you see any major issues. Thanks
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No input on this from anyone.
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Looks good too me. Like you said i do not like the amount of 90 degree angles but you do not have much space.
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Just read your thread, looks good so far. Im really liking the cube design and looking forward to seeing you get this bad boy runnin. I know its there but where is the main line going from the sump to the pump. I see the line for the refugium, I was just curious as to where the output line was going to be placed.
Good work keep us updated.
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Disaster! I was starting to fill the tank after getting the plumbing finished when we had a bit of an issue. It would have been convenient to connect my new RO/DI system to the kitchen sink which is 4 feet from the tank, however the faucet didn't allow a connection due to how it was designed. So, I hooked up my python in the bathroom, about 25' feet away, took off the venturi piece and the inlet extension, and basically just used the hose. Connected everything and started filling.

It was going great for about 8 hours, filled about 2" of water in the bottom of the tank. Talk about a slow process. I decieded to leave it on overnight and looked forward to waking up with enough water to start mixing in my salt. The problem starts.

At about mid-night, the python hose, which was 4 years old I remind you, burst at a kink location due to the pressure. The sound of the hose exploding under the pressure was unreal. My cat laying in bed with me and my wife freaked out, scratched her back as it ran for cover, and used my face as a spring board to jump onto the dresser. She stepped right on my eye socket just as I was waking up due to the loud sound. I think she nearly poked my eye out. The dog started barking just as the abusive cat knocked a metal cup off the dresser onto the hard wood floor resulting in more crashing.

Me and the wife, with scratched back and me with one eye hustle to the bathroom to find ALOT of water on the floor and its still flowing pretty good. We shut it off, got out some beach towels, and got back to bed about 12:30. Yikes!

My wife is such a trooper. She says "I told you we should leave that on when we are asleep or not at home". Yadda yadda yadda. But, at the same time, she was supportive and went to Home Depot to work on a resolution.

I ended up getting a dishwasher connection for the sink in the kitchen. It uses a small metal sleeve which connects to a quick snap connector which resembles a hose bib. We connected the RO system to that last night and it ran for a view hours and everything seemed fine. She will be home today so it will run all day.

I just want to get this thing full... what an experience.
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Have you a reason to do the initial fill with RO/DI water? Unless your tap readings are that high, I would use tap for now. For one, you want to fill with water and turn all the pumps on to see if all connections are tight and there are no leaks. Secondly, cycling will foul the water anyway and you'll do substantial water changes (plural) afterwards. I'd consider using the RO/DI water then.

So, have you tested your tap and are using the RO/DI because of the results?
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