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Old 04-12-2008, 02:05 AM   #11
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I honestly don't know. It all depends on how much coralline you want. Here's what I'd do if I was in your shoes...

Get your Ca up to 400, or wherever you want it, using TurboCa. Don't increase your tank's Ca levels more than 20ppm per day. (That's just want the back of the B-Ionic bottle says... seems like it's a good limit.)

Once at that level, don't add any Ca for a week. After a week, measure your Ca level again and compare. With your results, you'll be able to know how much Ca/day your tank is using. Use that calculator cccapt linked to, and figure out how much of whatever Ca supplement you want to use you need to dose per day to keep your levels stable during the week.

If you don't see any drop in Ca over the week, then don't add anything. Yet. But keep testing each week. Eventually, as you coralline builds up, it'll start chewing up some of that calcium and you'll see a drop. The brain will probably take a little, much not much right away. It's probably going to devote it's energy for the next few months in getting used to its new home!

I dose 20ml of Part A & B of C-balance per day. That, in addition to adding enough TurboCa to my PWC water to bring it up to 400ppm calcium, my tank stays consistently at 400ppm calcium and between 8-9 dKh alkalinity. Magnesium stays between 1140 and 1200ppm.

Personally, if I were to leave for three days, I'd just not worry about it and see where I'm at when I get back, and play catch up if I have to. That's not long enough to really cause a problem. Even if you have a calcium hog of a tank.
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Personally, if I were to leave for three days, I'd just not worry about it and see where I'm at when I get back, and play catch up if I have to. That's not long enough to really cause a problem. Even if you have a calcium hog of a tank.
I agree. And if you are really concerned, bump them up a little higher than normal before you leave.
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:08 AM   #13
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I also would not worry about dosing over a weekend or even up to a week unless the tank is heavily loaded with sps and clams.

I also noted that you were planning on mixing the kalk in the dosing the jug. That is a no-no. The kalk should be mixed in a seperate container and the bottom inch or so of the mix should not be used. There is a lot of precipitate from kalk that accumulates in the bottom of the mixing container. It is also recommended to add kalk at night when the pH is typically lower.

I latched onto Randy's home made 2 part a few months back and I'm a believer. It's cheap, it's easy, what more could be said. I even checked on Dow's site to find the differences between the products. Several of them are food grade.
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Do not buy any Dow calcium chloride product, such as DowFlake, Peladow, Prestone DrivewayHeat, QuikJoe, etc, unless you know it was made before Jan. 07. Starting in Jan. 07, Dow stopped the process in which bromide was removed. All "new" Dow products have an extremely high bromide level now...and it still hasn't been determined if the high levels of bromide will have any adverse affect. Dow has a list of codes on their site that will help determine when the product was made.
Bulk Reef Supply has calcium in stock that is still safe to use.
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So what exactly do I need to buy?? And what exactly do I need to do Still a little up in the air on the idea? I could probably get away with doing nothing at this point but need to figure this out for my long-term plan. What are all of you doing to your tanks exactly. I know there is the option of TurboCa to bump up the Calcium and then a daily 2-part solution. Trying to determine how much 2-part to add I am still unsure of. What other ways are there of achieving the goal of bumping up my Reef Crystals Calcium level. I understand the Homeade Calcium Chloride but not sure how to administer it to my tank. Can you all explain it to me like I am a first grader?
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All you need is calcium chloride (Kent TurboCalcium, or calcium chloride from Bulk Reef Supply) and Arm & Hammer baking soda.
Follow the directions on the link I gave before for instructions on preparing the solutions. I dump in 3/4 cup of alk supplement in the AM and 3/4 ca supplement in the PM. That's it.
Your consumption will probably be very low, so at this point I wouldn't worry about mag. Pwc's should take care of that.
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All you need is calcium chloride (Kent TurboCalcium, or calcium chloride from Bulk Reef Supply) and Arm & Hammer baking soda.
Follow the directions on the link I gave before for instructions on preparing the solutions. I dump in 3/4 cup of alk supplement in the AM and 3/4 ca supplement in the PM. That's it.
Your consumption will probably be very low, so at this point I wouldn't worry about mag. Pwc's should take care of that.
So you just dump it right into the tank? should it be dumped into the sump so it has time to mix a little or do you mix with RO/DI water and then dump it in? And how do you determine how much to add? The Calculator linked will tell me what to do?
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Yes, dump it right in the tank, near a powerhead.

No, not in the sump. Reason being it is a high concentration you are dosing into a small area (sump). There is a very good chance the solution will precipitate in the sump and calcify on the walls of the sump and on the impellor magnet in the pump.

It's already mixed with RO when you make it. Don't dilute it.

Yes, use the calculator.
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Yes, dump it right in the tank, near a powerhead.

No, not in the sump. Reason being it is a high concentration you are dosing into a small area (sump). There is a very good chance the solution will precipitate in the sump and calcify on the walls of the sump and on the impellor magnet in the pump.

It's already mixed with RO when you make it. Don't dilute it.

Yes, use the calculator.
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Cccapt,

Thanks for posting that info about the Dow products. I found the bulletin on their site and found Randy's posting about not using the Dow products any longer. Dow lists an even higher concentration in their Anhydrous Calcium Chloride.

Do you have information from Bulk Reef Supply that the product they are selling is different?

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