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Old 03-19-2003, 08:18 PM   #31
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My LFS purchases fish from that place that catches the fry and raised them in tanks. Im not sure but I think there name is ORA. Ill have to research it more.
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Just thought I would bring this topic back up for a little info about the Marine Aquarium Council. For those who have a subscription to AFM in the June issue (why on earth I have the june issue and its just the start of April I have no idea). Anyway. In the june issue on page 31 is a full page article about the MAC and its certification process.

You can get a list of all MAC certified retialers by visiting www.aquariumcouncil.org I will be adding this to our links page under retailers.
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Old 01-27-2004, 10:31 PM   #33
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Population...

Excellent discussion... one that I am passionate about. While I frequently feel guilty for being a human being, I try to make my peace with the fact that I'm not going to make the problem worse by reproducing myself 10 times!

Every single person on this planet utilizes the resources of the planet for food, shelter etc. Certainly, we in developed countries utilize tons and tons more than most.

I've heard people tell me...we need to conserve, live on less, be vegetarian, drive an electric car... Good yes, but where does it lead? We continue to try to exert less and less demand per person while we continue to reproduce at an alarming rate.

The human population on this planet will eventually peak. We're living in an aquarium and it will only support so much demand. One thing I'm sure of... when the population hits peak, life is NOT going to be very pleasant. (I assume I'm not going to be around for it)

We aquarium people should have a better understanding of this than most. How many fish can you keep alive in fixed size of tank? Keep adding fish....c'mon you can squeeze a few more in there...they can live on less... no water changes, its a closed system...we all know what is going to happen in this aquarium....CRASH!
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Eh.. whoever that was aimed at, it was unnecassary to end it that way.
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I personally do not touch any but captive bred saltwater fish.
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Ornamental fw fish in Florida is a Major problem. Oscars compete with native species, they eat other fishes eggs, believe me it's pretty bad.
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Yah, I have to take back What I said about captive bred species.
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Yah, I have to take back What I said about captive bred species.
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Excellent discussion... one that I am passionate about. While I frequently feel guilty for being a human being, I try to make my peace with the fact that I'm not going to make the problem worse by reproducing myself 10 times!

Every single person on this planet utilizes the resources of the planet for food, shelter etc. Certainly, we in developed countries utilize tons and tons more than most.

I've heard people tell me...we need to conserve, live on less, be vegetarian, drive an electric car... Good yes, but where does it lead? We continue to try to exert less and less demand per person while we continue to reproduce at an alarming rate.

The human population on this planet will eventually peak. We're living in an aquarium and it will only support so much demand. One thing I'm sure of... when the population hits peak, life is NOT going to be very pleasant. (I assume I'm not going to be around for it)

We aquarium people should have a better understanding of this than most. How many fish can you keep alive in fixed size of tank? Keep adding fish....c'mon you can squeeze a few more in there...they can live on less... no water changes, its a closed system...we all know what is going to happen in this aquarium....CRASH!
Fortunately it's not all bad news. If you go to the Population Reference Bureau you'll see that most of the population growth is slowing down, even decreasing in most of the nations in Europe . It's expected that we'll see an inflection point in 2040 or so, maybe even earlier. The more money and education people have the less children they want, or maybe they can afford more birth control. Unfortunately the Middle East has a bunch of repressed teenagers and young adults without a lot of options.
Can we keep from killing off almost everything but the "rats" and "weeds" of the world (pigeons, crows, deer, feral housepets, etc) before then? It's hard to say. I'm an optimist. I see that the population isn't going to overflow, hotrod hybrids are being unveiled (I'm a car nut with a conscience), and we're figuring out how to close the loop (Rocky Mountain Institute and Changing World Technologies).
Personally, one great thing that I see coming out of the SW industry is that we're learning more about our oceans, its tremendous variety of life, and how to care for it properly. I just hope this ship can turn fast enough to avoid the iceberg...
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