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Old 09-13-2004, 05:01 PM   #1
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LR illegal in hawaii!

i just spoke to some members of a local saltwater aquarium club and asked them where they get their live rock. they told me that LR is illegal in the state of hawaii, even if it is bought and shipped from the mainland U.S. (or anywhere else). i asked them if they have any LR dispite the ban and, although they are pretty staunch enthusiast, they don't and kinda look down on those who are "breaking the law".

i, too, am pretty conforming when it comes to these things so i will also comply.

i guess i will be setting up a FO tank and spending some time in that forum.
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Old 09-13-2004, 05:05 PM   #2
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i just spoke to some members of a local saltwater aquarium club and asked them where they get their live rock. they told me that LR is illegal in the state of hawaii, even if it is bought and shipped from the mainland U.S. (or anywhere else). i asked them if they have any LR dispite the ban and, although they are pretty staunch enthusiast, they don't and kinda look down on those who are "breaking the law".

i, too, am pretty conforming when it comes to these things so i will also comply.

i guess i will be setting up a FO tank and spending some time in that forum.
Just get some Base rock from HiRocks.com It is just rock not from the ocean. I will soo turn purple if you get some Corline Alage scrapings.
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Old 09-13-2004, 05:17 PM   #3
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According to the state's laws on corals, etc...rock collection is only illegal for commercial purposes. Also, the rock must not be broken off the reef, but rather can be collected as coral rubble. There is a limited amount that can be taken per person, per day.

http://www.hawaii.gov/dlnr/dar/libra...l_liverock.htm
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Old 09-13-2004, 05:18 PM   #4
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I agree, if you can get some quarried terrestrial rock, it should be OK, if not, you can make your own base rock (instrctions on GARF.org) and it can become live in your tank
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Old 09-13-2004, 07:14 PM   #5
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hoops guru, thanks for the link. i will share that with the SW club! i guess it will be legal for me to havest one gal of live rock per day (yes, that read gal, not pounds - as per the following quote from the state website...

"The taking of sand, coral rubble or other marine deposits is permitted in certain circumstances. The material may not exceed one gallon per person per day, and may be taken only for personal, noncommercial purposes. HRS §171-58.5, §205A-44"
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i did some further research and the above says i can take a galloon of sand, coral rubble or other marine deposits. it doesn't say anything about live rock. i further found the regulation about live rock as follows...

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Unlawful to take, break or damage, with any implement, any rock or coral to which marine life is visibly attached or affixed. HAR 13-95.

so i guess as i originally posted... no live rock. also, after talking again with the SW club, they say that if you are found with live rock, regardless of actually origin, then you can be prosecuted.
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they say that if you are found with live rock, regardless of actually origin, then you can be prosecuted.
Um, how are they going to prove that you didn't make it yourself? And if you did actually make your own then it will eventually look just like regular LR so does it become illegal at that point to??

Also, that quote doesn't say anything about importing LR.
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I agree with Atari. Also there are companies that Aquaculture LR, which would not be taken from a reef.
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ya if you make it according to Garf, then it's not live rock, it's cement.
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u could just make your own and take pics of the process... they cant really dispute that
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