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Old 02-24-2005, 07:49 PM   #1
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LR rubble instead of bio balls?

I read somewhere that you could use LR rubble instead of bio balls in a wet/dry system. Does anyone do this? Pros, cons?
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Old 02-24-2005, 07:58 PM   #2
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Much better option. The only difference is the LR rubble will need to be kept submerged. The bioballs will trap detritus and lead to high nitrates. The rubble will host nitrifying and denitrifying bacteria to help in biologic filtration.
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The submerged rock will also become a place for pods and other life to collect and thrive. Think of it as a mini refuge.
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How many lbs of rubble would you need to run a homemade wet/dry filter system with a sump?
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may i know wht is LR rubble? i just made my sump/ refugium. i was thinking to put either bio balls or rubble.
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Just small chunks of live rock.
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rubble as morticus said is just the small bits of rock that you get in the bottom of a box when it arrives to the LFS or to your home if you mailorder. If you dont have any rubble and need some you can just take a few rocks and smash them up with a hammer and chizel. IF you do this be sure to wear eye protection.

The amount of rubble one would use is somewhat dependant upon the setup but I would say you want enough so you can get a depth of 4"-6" in the bioball chamber of the wet/dry. The rubble will need to be sumerged vs having water trickle over it so th ewater level in the sump will be a little higher. This depth of rock rubble would give you a fairly good amount of extra surface area for biofiltration.
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Okay, thanks.
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I've done this in my wet dry, but I have to warn you, the sound can be horrific unless you extend the tube that drops the water into it. At first, mine put the water down through the plate and it trickled down to the bottom where it crashed and splashed on the water covering the LR rubble, so I just went to home depot and picked up a little bit of soft tubing and ran the inlet down further until it went into the water quietly.
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Liverock rubble is a much better filter media then bioballs are. However, bioballs work great providing you have plenty of LR in the main tank. When you put the rubble in the sump or wet/dry, you may need to increase in the water level so that all of the rubbble is submerged. Go around to the LFS and see if they have any. Some sell it and others might just give it to you. I am sure the bottom of their curing tanks is covered with rubble. Also, see with day they get LR shipments in and ask if they can save the rubble in the bottom of the box for you. My LFS was just throwing it away so I took it home and cured it myself. They have since become "wise" and now use it in the private tanks they set up, and change for it.
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