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Old 01-12-2014, 06:19 PM   #11
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mandarins should not be added to a new tank they require a mature tank of atleast a year or so they will starve in a new tank , it is recommended you train or purchase a trained mandarin ,
it's not impossible to train them it just takes patients the best way is to hang a breeder net in the tank put mandarin in start with live brine shrimp slowly add frozen as it takes to the brine after it takes to the frozen you can repeat these steps with pellets I used the grain size ones , it took me almost 3 weeks to train but it was well worth it I've had mine now over 2 1/2 years now , I also breed pods most just use a 5 gal pail with a lid sand on bottom with about 2 inch of water and some rubble that is piled a little higher than water , yes it does stink as the water gets stagnant over time you don't need to change it though just fill as needed just keep it in a cool place and they will thrive just feed them a tea spoon copod blend every otherday
here is a good read about mandarins very helpful to understand the needs of your mandarin ,
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Yes you should wait! I made a new salt error by purchasing the scooter too early and was lucky I guess that he survived in my tank - it's not recommended though. I have a pair of clowns, a cardinal, a firefish, a court jester goby and a sharpnose puffer and they all get along fine...
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I have about 70 pound of rock and it still has plenty of open swimming room
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Old 01-12-2014, 08:20 PM   #15
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Get a hang on the back refugium like the CPR Aquafuge2 with it's light fixture &. Add some plants for the copepods to feed on & rubble, sand, or fiji mud-(from what i hear it helps them) so they can seed into them & then Just add a bottle or two of copepods every three months. That'll keep a steady population without the risk just like in the big tanks with the big refugiums. Manderins constantly hunt & feed expet at night so, a tank less then 200 gallons will lose all of it's copepods eventually.
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Old 01-12-2014, 08:36 PM   #16
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Best way to keep a mandarin to to have them eat frozen food or pellets. I purchased an ORA mandarin, they are supposed to eat pellets. Mine did not, but after a month of intense feeding several times a day by target feeding my mandarin took to some frozen. It took a few more years but mine now eats pellets. I must have tried over a dozen different frozen foods though and my water parameters were just plain terrible due to all of the overfeeding.
Even now, years later i still overfeed, cause it is possible for a mandarin to go back to pods only at any time. This is undoubtably the hardest fish I have to keep. Not sure i would do it over again if given the chance.
In that size tank you would need more than 1.5 lbs per gallon in my opinion as well as have established rock. ALot of established rock. You want to see pods everywhere in your tank, by the thousands. Thats the only way my mandarin lived for the month it took to train her, she wiped out every last pod I had. i even had a pod tank at one point. lol

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