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Old 06-10-2004, 09:36 PM   #1
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Mandarin Goby Vs. Damsels

Will a new man mandarin goby be compatible or be harassed by 2 blue damsels?...or should I remove them from the tank?
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The mangarin's going to die alway, so why not let him be harassed!!! But to answer
your question, probably not.

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Mandarin Gobies will only live in a well established, mature (no less than 1 yr old) reef tank. This is because they depend on the pods and other tiny crustaceans that live in the sandbed for food. It takes a while for these populations to become well enough established to support the goby. If they are not, the Mandarin will starve to death. Unless your tank meets these requirements, I would not suggest getting a Mandarin. Actually, I doubt a 30gal would support a Mandarin even if it was a mature tank...just not big enough. JMHO.
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how long do you think it would last before it would die off?
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Old 06-11-2004, 11:05 AM   #5
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cleantank wrote:
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The mangarin's going to die alway, so why not let him be harassed!!!
In my opinion there is a better way to answer someones question than using sarcasim. It does not benifet someone to be sarcastic. Some people, like me, dont know that much about this hobby yet. So IMHO, state the facts of why it would not be advisable to have a madarin in the tank. Don't mean to sound harsh, but this is a peacful community.
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I second you on that revhtree. The majority of the people and advisors are little harsh on how they reply and make people sound stupid. A lot of people think just because they have more posts that they know more and what they say is right.
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It's actually a mandarin dragonet

Mandarins are sort of "invisible" and gentle.... they leave everyone alone and the others don't seem to see them...

But I wouldn't trust Damsels even in that situation. They're just plain unpredictable and snippy.

If you add LOTS of rubble type rock and you see pods on the glass constantly you might be able to pull it off with a dragonet. A rougher substrate also helps a lot (pods populate this type of substrate more than with sand). But as much as they eat you will find that you'l need a large amount of rubble and a fuge would be a good idea too with that smaller tank if you decide to do it.

My way of knowing there are enough pods is that I see copepods and amphipods every day in the rocks and on the glass, plentifully, in my mandarin tank. It has lots and lots of rubble. This way I know the mandarin has enough to eat. It is also important to know the shape of their body, i.e. a healthy tummy curve.

Steve - s had a cool article about this a while back I will have to go digging for it.
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Actually, I doubt a 30gal would support a Mandarin even if it was a mature tank...just not big enough. JMHO.
That's kinda what I was thinking too.

Mine's in a 40g long in the "rubble tank" but I sorta feel like that is about minimum size.
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I second you on that revhtree. The majority of the people and advisors are little harsh on how they reply and make people sound stupid. A lot of people think just because they have more posts that they know more and what they say is right.
While I agree that sometimes members do answer a bit more harshly than necessary, I think that most of the advisors, if not all, give factual answers or educated opinions for each question they answer. You have to remember that, often, we answer the same questions over and over and over. While we don't have a problem with this, and understand that people are not born knowing about aquariums, answers tend to get shorter and more to the point with references to the search feature on the site and several articles that have been published on the site. This isn't a matter of not wanting to answer as much as it is the callouses on our fingertips from all the typing 8O . The staff here, as a whole, tries to maintain a family atmosphere and keep things as friendly as possible. When the inevitable flare-ups occur between members, we try to handle it via PM in a quiet and friendly way. If anyone feels like there is a problem, or feels that anyone on the staff has been harsh with them, I would encourage them to contact either of our site administrators. Reefrunner or fishfreek...and I promise you they will look into it. Sorry for the off topic post, but I wanted everyone to know that any issues like this need not go unresolved.

In response to the question of how long the mandarin would last, that would depend on the food supply. There isn't really any way to say exactly how long, but it would die from slow starvation. This is why we don't recommend these fish for most folks...they have special requirements.
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The response from THIS thread that generated the hurt feelings was by Cleantank who said this:

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your question, probably not. "
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