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Old 12-27-2006, 02:18 PM   #41
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I love those heaters! They tell the temp of the water and what temp they are running at....I think. There weren't any real directions (at least not in the digital ones I got).
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:27 PM   #42
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I will shoot pics of mine tonite if possible ....
We use a the penguin 350 we use media in it too . I also house our heater (finexx 50 watt ) heater in the filter as well as the thermometer probes in there , You may need to dremmle out a bit of the top but it is easy enough .... The thing is to measure the depth on it subtract 1 inch of depth for the lid of the filter and that is the length of the heater you will need....The subtraction of the 1 inch give you room for the cord and the lid factors ....dremmeling out is easy place the heater in let the cord drape over mark with a sharpie where the cord "falls" drill a starter hole then dremmel out the round portion I will take pics to show you a bit later .....


















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Thanks Sadie that`s a good how to with pics. I appreciate it very much.
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:11 PM   #44
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FWIW, depending on the temperature of the room the horse tank is in, you probably won't need a heater in it.
My seahorse tank has two large floor fans blowing on it to try to keep the temperature down.
My basement never gets below 80F because of all my tanks,
and I don't want the seahorse tanks above 72 so it's a constant struggle to keep cool.
Cooler temperatures mean less chance of problems from bacterial outbreaks,
If you check, most experienced hobbyists on the org, and, most breeding places, keep the temperatures cool compared to what we are used to for our reef tanks.
Another point I want to mention is that Tank bred is preferred to captive bred, which includes pen raised horses. Horses raised in pens placed in the ocean, are still possibly carrying pathogens similar to wild caught ones, but because of the "captive bred" tag, people don't think about that aspect of it.
As far as how much rock to have, I have enough for the biological filtration because I use no filter on my tank, but I have the rock sectioned off now, (egg crate) unlike when I first started it was spread out on the tank bottom.
I became frustrated with trying to see the horses and they seemed to always stay in my rockwork.
Now, no rocks, I still have problems picking them out when they are right in front of my nose in the plants, but at least I see them a heck of a lot more.
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Another point I want to mention is that Tank bred is preferred to captive bred, which includes pen raised horses. Horses raised in pens placed in the ocean, are still possibly carrying pathogens similar to wild caught ones, but because of the "captive bred" tag, people don't think about that aspect of it.

Tank Bred and Captive Bred can both mean multiple things, but when you go to seahorsesource or dracomarine you know they are all bred in tanks under excellent conditions. (but horses like abdominalis, etc. are imported from a breeding project in australia).

Dracomarine is more of a company, seahorsesource is like an at home project..just in a very large scale.
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Well thanks for the ideas. I have to have a heater on it because it is on an exterior wall. In the winter it gets to teens at nites and the temp will go to low. I`m still trying to figure what to do on that point but I think we all agree on captive bred.
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:22 PM   #47
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Hi guys! I read this entire thread! I too am starting my first seahorse tank.

I set up my tank Dec. 20th. I've been getting different feedback from many people. This is what I went with........
20g high tank
penguin biowheel (the smallest one that holds a C cartridge)
seaclone 100 skimmer
visatherm stealth 150watt heater
1 and 1/2 inch sandbed
Bahama grand sand (which is fine white sand with many small shell pieces)
Lighting is a dual satellite 2x65w 1 dual daylight, 1 dual actinic, 1 lunar light

I have 22 lbs of LR in the tank. Eight lbs of it has been in there for 2 days, and I just purchased the rest of it about two hours ago.
I did not want alot of LR, but many people kept telling me, "The more you have, the better off you are". Only one person told me to have no LR at all. I wanted to compromise what I've heard and go with 15 lbs. My LFS just recieved an 800 lb shipment of some fantastic stuff, and I got it at 5 bucks a lb!!!!!!! I was eyeing up the tonga branch, but decided to go with some other stuff I forget the name of.
So I have a half lb of Florida cultured, which is almost completely covered in purple, with a little green. I have 5 lbs of Carribean plant rock, 2 lbs of tonga fusion, and I just bought 14 lbs of this mystery tonga rock. It's incredible!!!! It's covered in red and purple algae. And it has red and purple plants growing off of it.

I'll be following this thread, so feel free to send advice my way!
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OK Starfyre, I guess we are going to do this together. Right now I`m trying to figure out what to do with my heater whether to cover it with some craft stuff from walmart or get a smaller one and put it in my filter like Sadie was showing me with her pics. I would be care ful of the skimmer as people have warned me about the micro bubbles. I also need to get a small PH.
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I was told that I don't even need a filter, and if I do use one, to keep the cartridge out and just use the biowheel with some LR rubble in the box. I was also told that a skimmer is a must. I also plan on putting a few soft corals in there, so that may be the reason for that advice. I havebeen told that between the skimmer and the LR, that will be adequate filtration. I am, however, leary of going filterless. Why not use a biowhell?? Is that because of possible nitrate build-up?
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I would go with the cover for the heater. Having it directly in the tank will be a better source of heat. I went with a visatherm stealth for my seahorse tank. It has a plastic cover, so I doubt I will encounter any problems. I have it set horizontally close to the sand bed. There's a bunch of LR in front of it, which will make it hard for the ponies to get back there.
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