Originally Posted by fishlover07
thanks probably most helpful post I've ever got I have a question about my Mandarin though. will Mandarins starve themselves Without eating frozen food or will they eventually give in. Because right now he's eating the frozen pods
but IM worried hell stop eventually and how big of a tank would I need to grow the pods
. Like a two gallon?
You will never be able to grow enough pods
to feed your mandarin. This is why the only mandarins that arnt trained that survive the log haul are in very large 100+ gallon reef systems that are very established and well maintained.
And yes most would rather die then ever touch frozen food. The other issue you have with them is when you are training them they need to be feed like 4 times a day because they arnt like a clown fish that will stuff it's self when you feed. They are grazers and will eat all day long and if you watch them they are like humming birds. Constantly moving and fins go very quickly meaning they burn a lot of calaries quickly. When you get them to readily except frozen they will start to eat quicker. Just like a copper banded butterfly fish. When they first start eating they will follow the frozen food around for a bit as they inspect it then finally eat it and by this time all the other food has been eaten settled or pulled out by your filtration. However when they get comfortable over time and recognize the frozen mysis as food they will begin to eat faster because they know its food and easy to catch and they don't have to sneak up on it.
Finally what helps is get cyclops shrimp to start out with. They are about the size of pods
and are rich in nutrients. Feed a little at a time and let him eat one or two then do it again and do this a few times a day. Be really carful though or you will feed to much and distroy your tank. Then when he's eating cyclops well then switch to brine soaked in a vitamin enriched product. This is because a fish eating just brine is going to lack a lot of protein and vitamins because brine lack nutrients. Ones this is going smoothly you up it to mysis soaked in Vitamin supplement. This will cause the fish to be fatter and healthier. Also most of the supplements have garlic in them that will intice the fish to eat as well as boost their immune system.
And like I said not every mandarin will go for this. Iv has sucsess with 3 and failed with 4. Red and green mandarins are the most difficult. Spoted and a bit easier and scooter blennies are the easiest but still no cake walk.
Feed in a lower flow area and feed in the same spot in the tank every time. This will help it get used to eating in a specific location making it easir for you. Also get something like a turcky baster. I use a large syringe without the needle to feed because its less invasive to the fish the. Your hand in the water with the food. My mandarin comes right up to the syringe when it enters the water now.