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Old 11-23-2012, 04:21 AM   #11
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I think it should also be a point that our reefs are dying at alarming rates partly due to the fact that you can find trash almost anywhere you look on the ocean floor even though we have been on less then 1% so subjecting your reef to these conditions at this point are riskier then they are worth and getting worse every year.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:02 PM   #12
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Ok. Thanks for the input. I was wondering bc I don't have an rodi unit and have been buying water and it would be so easy to just get it from the beach for free. I've read that you want to go way offshore to collect it and I don't have a boat so I don't think I'll chance it definitely don't want to introduce any parasites. Maybe instead I'll just get an rodi setup and mix my own...
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:27 PM   #13
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In the end, that is the most consistent way. But if I lived at the beach, I would be tempted to figure out a way to use natural seawater.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:45 PM   #14
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This is a pic of my tank for the last 2 months I've been using NSW because I had my tank crash from a bad batch of salt mix. So my thought was what better way of starting the tank again then with NSW. As you can see from the pic that the tank is clean. So far I'm not having any issues with fish lost or corals dying. Everything that I have is flourishing using NSW. I've never had such good growth and color using salt mix. So for me its working and I will continue to use NSW.
Using NSW is not for everyone u do take a risk using it. But u also take a risk at getting a bad batch of salt mix ( like i did) or over dosing on some type of solution like magnesium , iodine , and etc.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:10 PM   #15
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Can't argue with success. I have just heard some horror stories about NSW, but many major aquariums that are coastal use it after filtering it and UV nuking it. They all harvest it a long ways off shore. The ocean works a little like your protein skimmer does, wave action causes protein fractionation (skimming) as the waves pound the beach leaving sea foam, which is full of organics. Closer to the beach, the higher the organic levels in the water.
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:59 AM   #16
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I guess you have to live by a clean ocean to understand it. All lfs here get it at the inlets.incoming high tides brings the water in from the gulf stream. Supports great inshore reef life works for me.
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Old 11-24-2012, 03:35 AM   #17
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IMHO you don't have to live near an ocean to understand it. Basically unless your keeping the same local inhabitants as where you get your NSW from you are taking a risk. Like Russian roulette. I live only few miles from the ocean but I wouldn't add it to my tank without filtering & sterilizing cuz nothing in my tank is native within hundreds of miles to me and surely there are some different organisms here compared to where they are from. As stated before you can't argue with success but just because things have been successful for a period of time doesn't mean things can't change and go wrong. The ocean ebbs and flows and brings about change in many ways. I still say filter & sterilize and be on the side of caution and protect your tank inhabitants and the investment in them you've made. With all the costs associated with this hobby why not do what we can to increase our chances of success?
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:37 AM   #18
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If it were my 2,000 dollar reef tank i would make a long term investment and buy the rodi unit. Its definitly the safest way to go and definitly consistant. Im not sure how you can make a bad batch of salt...? Was the salinity wayyy off? I feel like that could be easily avoided.

I would like to point out that the beach 10 minutes from my house is one of the most polluted beaches on the west coast. The water quality is terrible and could easily crash a reef tank. Just a few miles south of that beach is a radioactive powerplant.... And north of that beach is clean water. I just wanted to point out that if you dont know what is near/in the water things could easily end poorly..
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Old 11-24-2012, 08:56 AM   #19
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Yea I've made the decision not to just because the quality of the water where I am is rarely great. Largely due to regular discharges from lake okeechobee through the inlet closest to me. The lake runoff water is badly polluted w pesticides and fertilizer from nearby sugar farms... Sadly resulting in substantial die-offs of everything in our river and intercostal waters. Secondly I don't think I would collect it right at the beach bc of what Greg stated about the natural "skimming" happening in-shore and I don't own A boat. Instead I'm going to look into rodi unit that I can modify so I can drink the RO water too.

I appreciate the discussion!
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:14 PM   #20
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Russian roulette goes with salt mixes to I guess.when they have a recall on a major brand that's kind of scary to! Do whats best in your situation op sounds like you already know. You will succeed its pretty simple once you get going. Find a good lfs in your area and talk with them.
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