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Old 06-28-2012, 05:45 PM   #1
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Hello everyone! I just realized that i posted this in the wrong forum, but i have absolutely no knowlege of this type of communications, so HELP!! If you know how i can transfer all this to the right forum, let me know. My tank is a 28g nano which will one day be a reef tank. Right now it is a 29g nano with 2" of aragonite live sand and I topped it off with CaribSea Figi Pink live sand. I have 16.9 lbs of live rock. I have 3 problems. Every time I touch the thing the sand or particles blow up and I have a white tank for a day or two. How do you aqua scape your rocks if you can't even see them? I'm going to add another LR tonight to complete what I want to do, but I can't really see inside. I also will get an underwater putty to connect them, if I can ever see the things. oh yeah, I wash out the sponge every day with tap water and let it dry while I put in another sponge.
My LFS keeps telling me not to get testing equipment, that I just need to bring a sample to her and she will test it for me. Sound right to you?
Last question (for now) is that the tank has been going for 9 days. It developed brown spots on all surfaces. I assume they are diatoms and that I needn't bother with them. Am I correct? They will go away on their own?
Thanks everybody for your help. I studied everything I could find for 3 months to prepare for this but I guess I'm not.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:03 AM   #3
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What are you using to circulate the water and did you rinse your sand before adding it. That could be the reason your getting such bad sandstorms. As for testing. I might say no test kit and trusting your lfs might be ok if there trustworthy but if you plan on a reef then you need to be able to do it all yourself, trust me. The brown spots sound like diatoms which over the next few months your tank will go through different blooms which is normal. Once that's all over with you should have yourself an established reef tank and you'll be able to fully enjoy the SW world so goodluck and welcome to AA any more questions feel free to ask that's why we're here
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:12 AM   #4
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Turn off your pumps when you aqua scape it will help withe the sand storm Get a test kit because when things go bad the LFS is always closed

Your sand will stop blowing around when you get a bacti slime coat it just takes time Sounds like you have diatoms so your off to a good start
PS rinse your sponge with old tank water, tap water will kill off the bacti your trying to build
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:15 PM   #5
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Thanks for replying, Mrc8858 and Grizz.
Because I have a cube the filter and wavemaker are included. I also added a Koralia 425. I am definately getting testing kits as I would like to utilize the lfs for emergencies and water. I was there yesterday to have my water tested, she said it was good, but gave me no readings, but then I didn't ask (duhhh!), and when I left, I had a water clarifyer, 2 "olive pit" snails, one beautiful turbo snail and two peppermint shrimps. She tried to sell me crabs and damsels, and I don't want either, and she seemed perturbed. I did not rinse my sand first because it was live sand and both the lfs and the bag said not to rinse.
I'm creating an arch, which isn't too stable, so
I bought something calles AquaStick to bond them together. Does this stuff actually work?
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Old 07-01-2012, 04:20 PM   #6
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This is why you want your own test kit. I would never trust a fish store to watch my water parameters. Just make sure your cycle is done before adding anymore life stock. With saltwater slow and steady wins the race.
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:33 PM   #7
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Thanks, Crystal A. Could you give me your opinion of something to bond my rocks together so they don't tumble? I tried something called AquaStick, but it does not seem to work, and, yes, I read the instructions.
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try the gel type super glue iv'e had good luck with it
Be careful with those "olive pit" snails (olive snails) are Predatory on most other mollusks including snails and clams. i'd bring them back and don't trust that LFS Most will write the test results down for you. Wise move with damsels little punks lol
Also water clairfyer is a waste of money run a small HOB with poly fill and charcoal to clear your water
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:11 PM   #9
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Thanks, Grizz. I have been unable to find anything but the stick type of bonding material. That's all they had at the Lfs and at Petco.com and Doctor's Foster and SmithAquatics. Yeah, I found out I wasted $15 on the clarifier. I never see those snails. You'd think as small as the tank is I could see them once in a while. Didn't know they were predatory. Thanks for the info.
Question, I only have about 19 lbs of live rock in the 28g tank. Once I can get those rocks stabilized, do you think I should get more live rock?
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Adding LR after the fact isn't a very good idea. Either put it all in now or add lace rock later down the road to not cause a mini cycle
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