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Old 02-15-2007, 08:42 AM   #1
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new tank

haven't posted here for a while, but after spending alot of money on halides, LR, etc. for my 85 gallon only to have the tank wiped out by ich from a powder blue, I gave up for a while and sold everything.

I have decided to give it another go with an empty 45 gallon tank, but I'm looking to spend alot less money and keep a very simple setup, my plan is to use alot of lava rock seeded with a small amount of live rock, no skimmer (as I bought an expensive one for my 85 gallon and really was not that impressed with the results), I'm going to use a couple of NO fluorescents as I already have starters for them, I still have a couple of maxi-900's so that should sort the flow out, I'm also going to use a 1000l/r filter I have and pack it with bio media. I'm thinking of using instant ocean salt, and RODI water (just need to replace the filters).

a couple of questions,

- would it be possible to make it sort of semi-reef (a few soft corals placed high in the tank, or would there not be enough light?)

- would there be any drawbacks to using base rock instead of live, assuming I stocked it slowly?

-any stocking suggestions?


thanks. I would really appriciate any comments or suggestions,
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:16 AM   #2
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I'm not sure on the corals.
I used 150Lbs of base rock from marcorocks.com and have not had a problem. I am mixing some LR from my LFS as they get good looking stuff in.
Stocking, you have a decen sized tank and a lot of possibilities.
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Welcome back. I agree with roka.

About the corals, I wouldn't attempt keeping any under NO lights. If you upgrade at all, even to PC, your choices expand greatly.

I'm setting up a 45 right now to, check my thread in this forum if you wish.
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I agree, NO just wont give you the light you need for coral. Try a PC fixture they aren't that expensive and you coud have a great looking reef!!!
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Ok, thanks. I got the stuff i need to set it up today and added some shrimps after seting it up, now just need it to cycle, I'll post some pics if I get a chance.

I'll wait a while anyway before getting coral, but an upgrade would probably be best.

stocking wise, I was thinking dwarf lions and valentini puffers, but changed my mind because that limits my invert choices,

are butterfly fish difficult to care for? I'm now thinking of an all-butterfly fish tank (with various inverts),

I want to avoid tangs due to their potential size (would limit stocking capacity).

any other ideas/suggestions, thanks.
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From what I have read butterflies can be tough to keep, if you can get them to eat then you should be ok.
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I`m going to sort of echo Ziggy about the eating part. I would make the LFS show you that they are eating before you get them. Dont think you`ll train them to eat because most times it does not work out. If you plan on getting corals then the butterfly fish will nip at them and destroy them. I also agree that corals will not do good under NO lights
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:17 AM   #8
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thought I would add a couple of pics of my tank, let me know what you think, please add any suggestions.
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That's a pretty sweet tank! Very nice aquascape too.
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looks great!
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