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Old 05-01-2011, 01:22 AM   #21
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I am sure there are many reports of success in keeping reefs, but metal halides put A LOT of heat into the water. I didn't buy a chiller for the fun of it. The amount of metal halide I needed to light my coral raised the tank temperature up to +5 degrees. When keeping a house in the summer time at 78F that gave me a daytime tank temperature of 83 or better. Worse yet was the swing. So it was either heat the water at night and keep the tank at 83 or chill it. The LEDs eliminated the need for this. Just my experience and exhaustion from replacing expensive bulbs all the time.

'Nuff said on the subject...lots of options to light your tank. Just evaluate the long term costs of operating your reef. If you are successful, which everyone wants you to be, this thing might run for a long time.
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Does this place have a website? These prices are so cheap that I might can start on my upgrade sooner than I thought xD
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The 240 I got was marked down to clear it out. But like I said earlier, for a custom order 180 with a stand and canopy was only 1300. I think they have a website and ship orders.
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If you can get me the the website or even the name of the store, it would be so much help. Thanks in advance!

Edit: didn't realize you already posted the name
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I'm not completely settled on light yet, but I imagine an led setup for 240 gallons would be absolutely outrageous.
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Old 05-01-2011, 03:31 AM   #27
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http://www.nolansaquariumsuperstore.com/

The deals listed on the website stink, call them. You can see in the picture that the 125 with furniture is 999.99.
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When keeping a house in the summer time at 78F that gave me a daytime tank temperature of 83 or better.
well, there's the factor that was missing. i think we can agree that if your house was kept closer to 70 in the summer, you wouldn't have needed the chiller. personally, i would have ran the A/C and had a cooler tank, and been more comfortable too.
as for the cost, it's "pay me now or pay me later".
just FYI, i am in no way an advocate for metal halides, and i do not condemn the use of LEDs. as a matter of fact, i find them to be the best way to light a tank, if you choose a quality fixture, and can afford the upfront cost.
i ran my 400 gallon system with a 400 watt halide, and three 250 watt halides, and my temp on the hottest day was 81. my tanks were in the basement, and we do run the a/c all summer.
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Old 05-01-2011, 10:36 AM   #29
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Well, I keep my house around 74, my current tank stays about 76. To be honest I just don't know enough about LED systems to know if the LFS is really selling me a system that will support the live stock I want to keep. I really like the colors that the halides bring out in a tank as well, but I don't know how many fixtures I would need, or the best way to go about installing them. I do realize the bulbs are pretty high though. How much would a suitable LED system run me, and how would I be able to tell if the system I buy would actually support inverts, or if it was just an expensive lighting system for looks only?
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It is about the total output. LEDs are just a bit different. They also bring out the colors nicely. Just add up the watts. For a 55, if you would normally light it with two 250 watt halide bulbs, then 2 LED panels with 130 1 watt LEDs would be more than enough. You might get away with one longer panel with as few as 150 LEDs. mixed blue and white.

All the posts are right about room vs tank temperature. I have come home and found my air conditioner went on the fritz and it is over 90 degrees in the house. I really don't want to risk my reef in the summer time to a 20 year old air conditioner. With a chiller, both systems would have to fail before my tank cooked.
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