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Old 03-02-2012, 11:35 PM   #21
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no not yet i just built my tank on weds and i put more salt water in it today before asking the quest dummy me lol is that going to affect my cycle or not and if so how can i fix it
Do you have a test kit? If not it HAS to be your next purchase, you can't run a tank without one.

At this point you basically want to add some ammonia, this will get the cycle started. You could just throw a raw shrimp in there (from the supermarket), as it decays it will produce ammonia. Then you test the water weekly until your ammonia, nitrates, nitrites are all at zero, this will take a month or so. When it is at zero your tank has the needed bacteria to breakdown fish waste (ammonia) and your tank is ready for its first fish. When you a half way through your cycle you can start to get a clean up crew (hermit crabs, snails etc), then when it's cycled and you are getting fish be sure to add one at a time so the bacteria can grow to combat the added ammonia.
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Old 03-03-2012, 12:18 AM   #22
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Do you have a test kit? If not it HAS to be your next purchase, you can't run a tank without one.

At this point you basically want to add some ammonia, this will get the cycle started. You could just throw a raw shrimp in there (from the supermarket), as it decays it will produce ammonia. Then you test the water weekly until your ammonia, nitrates, nitrites are all at zero, this will take a month or so. When it is at zero your tank has the needed bacteria to breakdown fish waste (ammonia) and your tank is ready for its first fish. When you a half way through your cycle you can start to get a clean up crew (hermit crabs, snails etc), then when it's cycled and you are getting fish be sure to add one at a time so the bacteria can grow to combat the added ammonia.
thats great help man i owe you big time lol also can i buy the bacteria or just do it with the shrimp its the first time i hear about this,also my nitrates,nitrites how do i get them to 0 is that a special liquid and what happens if lets say 1 of them is at 0 and the other 1 is not how do i fix that and whats the amonia level supposed to be 0 ?
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Old 03-03-2012, 12:41 AM   #23
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thats great help man i owe you big time lol also can i buy the bacteria or just do it with the shrimp its the first time i hear about this,also my nitrates,nitrites how do i get them to 0 is that a special liquid and what happens if lets say 1 of them is at 0 and the other 1 is not how do i fix that and whats the amonia level supposed to be 0 ?
You have all the bacteria in your live rock, that's why its "live". You just need to give that bacteria some food in the way of ammonia, do this by throwing in a raw shrimp. Your nitrates, nitrites, and ammonia will all spike, you want them to go down to 0 before adding fish, your ph should be around 8.2. It will take time but that's what you have to do. I always think that the less chemicals you put in to the tank the better it is for your fish. Just take your time with it all otherwise you will have loads of problems, I'm currently setting up a 55g with a 10g sump, it's taken me months to plan it, I haven't even got the tank yet! You can check it out if you like here 55G FOLR Build DIY ATS

Before you buy that 75g have a think about what you want, trust me it will save you a lot of time, I went through 3 tanks in my first two years with SW before I got a setup I was happy with.

As far as fixing the levels, that is a HUGE question with many answers, your best bet is to worry about that once your cycle is finished. Simply put, the easiest way to fix your levels is to do a water change, but that doesn't get to the source of the problem, cross that bridge when you come to it.

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thats great help man i owe you big time lol also can i buy the bacteria or just do it with the shrimp its the first time i hear about this,also my nitrates,nitrites how do i get them to 0 is that a special liquid and what happens if lets say 1 of them is at 0 and the other 1 is not how do i fix that and whats the amonia level supposed to be 0 ?
For your cycle just toss in a shrimp or pure ammonia. It'll go from there. Bacteria will grow to eat the ammonia and produce nitrite. Bacteria will grow to eat the nitrite and produce nitrate. You remove nitrates via your water changes. If you have a fuge, the algae in there will consume them. If you have algae in your tank, it can throw your nitrate readings off as it will be consuming them, but when you clean the algae out of the tank the nitrates will rise.
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Take a look at a fishless cycle:
The (almost) Complete Guide and FAQ to Fishless Cycling
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that is perfect it answers all my questions
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that setup looks amazing hopefully one day i will get to that level loli will go buy my dead shrimp tomorrow lol
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that setup looks amazing hopefully one day i will get to that level loli will go buy my dead shrimp tomorrow lol
If you have a local Ace hardware, I'd suggest getting the pure ammonia. Much easier to dose with and goes a lot more quickly.
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If you have a local Ace hardware, I'd suggest getting the pure ammonia. Much easier to dose with and goes a lot more quickly.
yea but how do i know how much to put in does it come with a measuring thing and i believe its 4ppm or something like that right?
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yea but how do i know how much to put in does it come with a measuring thing and i believe its 4ppm or something like that right?
A little goes a long way. Start out with a teaspoon and test. Add as needed and remember how much you need to dose to 4ppm.
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