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Old 10-13-2014, 11:55 AM   #1
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Nitrate help...I'm about to cry!!!

I recently started using a sump. I was fine with my Eheim 2217 for about a year and a half. I started getting into corals and was recommended to get a wet dry sump, of course by my local fish store . As I read threads and spoke to experienced people They said get rid of those bio balls!!! I followed a friends advice that has a thriving tank and made a sump/ refug. A couple of inches of sand in it and a few of my live Rock. This was all after I upgrade.it's a 72 gallon bowfront. I have three quarrels that look like they are not doing good. My Copperbend butterfly fish keeps picking at my open brain lps. Tested nitrates two days ago they were at 40, today it is up to 80 I'm going crazy!!! After the first test I did a water change of about 20 gallons and to my surprise when I tested it was actually higher than before I did the water change. Is it because of the corals that are not faring well? What is it that I am doing long I don't understand. I will do another 20% water change today. Is it my son that's causing it to spite? Here are some pics of the dying coral and my sump. Please check it out and give me some advice or tips. Thanks so much I haven't even been getting much sleep lately this on my mind!!!Click image for larger version

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I also just noticed that my protein skimmer is not filling the bubbles up to the neck into the collection cup. The skin looks like it's in the actual skimmer and not at the neck or at the cup. PS sorry about the long long story but I need help!!!


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Old 10-13-2014, 12:01 PM   #2
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This is what my skimmer is doing & looks like today Click image for larger version

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ID:	252741:-(... I have it in 8 1/4" of water. Dial is completely opened. Had it running for about 4 1/2, 5wks now. It was overflowing the first few weeks, then calm down to where the collection cup was going slowly now it's not collecting at all


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Almost forgot to say I am still running my canister filter also. Just added the sump never stopped using canister now I use both


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Almost forgot to say I am still running my canister filter also. Just added the sump never stopped using canister now I use both


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Hello There! What size Tank do you have? Are you using RO/DI water?
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Is there any chance a fish died that you couldnt find? How often do you clean out the canister filter?
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Is your return pump in the same chamber as the skimmer? If that is the case you are having fluctuating water levels on your skimmer and that could be part of the reason the skimmer isn't working as it should. I'm not sure what water level you should have for your particular skimmer but to me it looks too low.

I would clean out the canister and do a larger than 20% water change. The copper band nipping at the coral is not uncommon they do that.

I think there is a little more going on than just high nitrates.
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Old 10-13-2014, 02:58 PM   #7
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72g bow front... No my fish are all fine thankfully & I have only had that skimmer for 5wks now. That gunk accumulated in one day. Will clean it out later tonight. Are usually get my our own order for my Lfs, so hopefully that's what they are giving me.
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It may be your canister that is causing the problem? If you are just starting with corals....try mushrooms,and ZOAs first!!! DON'T purchase hard corals until you do your research save your money$$$ Your LFS will sell them to you but won't tell you the proper way to keep them!









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Old 10-13-2014, 03:02 PM   #9
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Sorry... I clean the canister about every six months at a time every 3. My ammonia is it zero, nitrates are at 80 my phosphates are at 5, calcium at 420. Nit zero and pH at between 8.2 & 8.4.
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I've had mushrooms, torch into Blasto's for about a year now also to bubble corals. Within the past 2 1/2 months I've gotten to SPS, and elegance that's giving me problems, but I've done my research and it seems like that's just how they are. I try to do as much research as possible on my quarrels before I purchase but I think my lighting system may also be contributing to my tank messing up. I purchased a marine land reef capable Timer strip. Sad to say that was a waste of money for this set up play I just finished ordering an echo tech GS pro ;-D. Will be getting a second one when I come in to some more money LOL
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