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Old 10-11-2004, 06:15 PM   #11
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Bio balls trap waste, food, poop over time this breaks down making NO3. this is why some say not to use bioballs for a reef set up and to use LR. Cleaning them on a regular basis can help avoid the build up. Just remember a through cleaning will also kill the good bacteria
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i dont see how these things work mind explaining?
They are simply slowing the flow rate down (~1GPH) so much that they are creating an area of very low to no oxygen like I described. The balls are simply there to give them (the bacteria) something to live on.

Some of these devices are hit and miss. For two hundred dollars, I could have one heck of a refugium that would do a much better job that this thing.
Not true, the one I have doesn't redue nitrates through the drip method, what it does is use some chemicals that converts Nitrates to Nitrogen Gas. after it done in 30 muntes, the water gets refilled and repeats the process, this products can have you overfill your tank and never change the water in your tank. I havent done a water change in 7 month's and my Nitrates and Phosphates are at 0.
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Old 10-12-2004, 11:27 PM   #13
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Not true, the one I have doesn't redue nitrates through the drip method, what it does is use some chemicals that converts Nitrates to Nitrogen Gas. after it done in 30 muntes, the water gets refilled and repeats the process, this products can have you overfill your tank and never change the water in your tank
Actually, what I wrote is very true, indeed. A *real* denitrator is nothing more than a biological filter in an anaerobic environment. This requires one to slow the flow rate down of water so that oxygen isn't brought it as that would kill the bacteria involved in the conversion of nitrate to nitrogen. Do a search on Google for denitrators and see what you come up with.

I am not sure what you have. Who makes it and what is it called? It sounds like some type of chemical absorption process that "grabs" the nitrate. Do you have to replace the chemicals involved in this process?

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Yes, but how many supplements do you have to add to keep ALL (calcium, iodine, magnesium, alkalinity, bromine, carbon, and on and on and on) your levels up??

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Actually, what I wrote is very true, indeed. A *real* denitrator is nothing more than a biological filter in an anaerobic environment. This requires one to slow the flow rate down of water so that oxygen isn't brought it as that would kill the bacteria involved in the conversion of nitrate to nitrogen. Do a search on Google for denitrators and see what you come up with.

I am not sure what you have. Who makes it and what is it called? It sounds like some type of chemical absorption process that "grabs" the nitrate. Do you have to replace the chemicals involved in this process?

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Yes, but how many supplements do you have to add to keep ALL (calcium, iodine, magnesium, alkalinity, bromine, carbon, and on and on and on) your levels up??

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All I do is add B Ionic Calcium every week to keep it up 400PPM, and Combisan weekly to replace the trace elements. thats all. it also helps keep my alkalinity up so I don't dose it. I think you need to do more research to find out that you are not true and thier are filters out thier that work. Also, I go with one bottle of thier product for nitrate/Phophate removal for a whole year. So I don't have to do expensive water. The key is to have a stable environment, with no changes. AND of course great water quality.
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I think you need to do more research to find out that you are not true and thier are filters out thier that work.
What is the make and model of your denitrator? Again, you have an unconventional denitrator. If I were to keep up with all the gadgets and gismos that people sell for aquaria, I would not have time for anything else. I am glad what you have seems to work for you but if someone asks me how a denitrator works, that is what I give them.
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NO I am sorry, if I came across rude since that is not my intentention, I love this site since people get to educate each other and we all are here to help other understand the new products in the hobby and assist when a problem evolves. Here is the website were I purchased my Nitrate/Phosphate filter, just go to the tab labeled denitrifier:

http://natureef.com/
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No hard feelings. I am glad I learned something.

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Dude, this machine has been the best purchase ever in my life. I would recommend it to everyone that can afford it.
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