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Old 05-30-2012, 01:22 PM   #11
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It should work. The purpose of live rock is to give your tank more surface are so that more beneficial algae and denitrifying bacteria can grow. It is a crucial part of your filtration.

You have to be careful when purchase base rock or even live rock, because it's not always cured, and it can throw off your parameters. If you buy rock you can expect there to be some die off on the rock from transport, drying out etc. think of it kind of like throwing dead fish in your tank.

As an example, I make artificial live rock out of white cement, oyster shell and salt. When I first finish the rock (before it is cured in water) it makes the PH level go up to about 11.2. If you go and just chuck it into your tank, it's going to destroy it. It takes at least 8 weeks of separate curing and water changes before its good to go.

I think it's recommended to cure all live rock before putting them into your tank, better safe than sorry. If nothing else you could place them in some water for a week or so and monitor for any unwanted spikes. You'll know pretty quick if it needs longer. Just my 2 cents, not expert by any means
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Old 05-30-2012, 02:54 PM   #12
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I'm using the test strips where you match the colors, are those reliable to pick up trace ammounts of nitrate and nitrite?
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:15 PM   #13
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No, they are hopeless, get yourself some liquid test kits.
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:32 PM   #14
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Api liquid test kits is decent brand to start out with.
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:47 PM   #15
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All API tests are inaccurate you get what you pay for.. Also did you do research before getting the lion and eel? The API strips are truly hopeless liquid is way better but salfrite or the good digital testers are the best
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Old 05-30-2012, 04:12 PM   #16
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Ahh that might explain why I never saw anything besides ammonia during cycling. I have API liquid tests for ammonia, but strips for everything else. I don't mind spending money on somethingthat will be accurate and last along time. How do digitals work, any good links on them?

I did my homework on the lion and eel, as fare as care sheets. Nothing ridiculously extensive as far as "research"
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:05 PM   #17
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Ahh that might explain why I never saw anything besides ammonia during cycling. I have API liquid tests for ammonia, but strips for everything else. I don't mind spending money on somethingthat will be accurate and last along time. How do digitals work, any good links on them?

I did my homework on the lion and eel, as fare as care sheets. Nothing ridiculously extensive as far as "research"
Well it would be cool if you have a future tank upgrade in mind for the eel and lion cause they deserve more room as for the test kit you can check out aquacave.com they have lots of digital testers pricier but sooo worth it also bulkreefsupply.com might have some
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:18 PM   #18
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Thanks. Sorry to be a pest but... I checked out auqacave, and I have no idea how any of them work. DO I have to buy an expensive meter for each thing I need to test, or is there one that tests for all the mandatory things?
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I almost didn't respond at all, since Rick, Carey, and a few others have already hit all the salient points here, but I felt like this was a good opportunity to reiterate all, plus point out the benefits of researching ahead of time.
You'll want at least 1 lb of rock per gallon, 1.5 lbs per gallon is better. But you're running a predator tank, and will need much stronger filtration than that.
A single good Live Rock for 10-20 bucks plus 25 lbs of dry base rock for 30 and you're set.
The absence of Nitrate and the fact that you can ever read any ammonia at all both indicate that you are not cycled. This is more than an annoyance for you. Your fish are swimming in gill burning toxic waste. This CAN kill them.
While others have already pointed out that neither a dwarf lion nor a snowflake moray are suitable for a tank that small, I'm going to add to this.
There has been some research (I think Melosua has the link) indicating that even keeping babies of big fish in tanks too small for the adult size can lead to serious health problems. The moray will get 3 feet long. The Lion probably needs at least 30 gallons if by itself. Always research an animal's requirements before purchasing it.
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Thanks. Sorry to be a pest but... I checked out auqacave, and I have no idea how any of them work. DO I have to buy an expensive meter for each thing I need to test, or is there one that tests for all the mandatory things?
Milwaukee makes good ones and yes you gotta buy individuals, i recommend getting them if your serious about the hobby since they are expensive and salfrite test kits work good as well especially compared to api
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