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Old 03-21-2014, 07:07 PM   #11
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Hmm... The $110 ones say they are 180watt instead of 120. New version or just a lie for a sale?
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I'm not sure about that. When I was looking, it was just after the auction ended on the expensive ones. In other words, the price changed at the end of each auction, up or down. Let's see what happens this time.
I emailed the guy I just got mine from. I'll let you know what he says. How many do you need?
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Just one. Thanks so much though!
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I use to import that same type fixtures. What varies the price is his shipping. The fewer units he ships from China, the more expensive they get. Right now he probably is keeping his stock down because of all the improvements the LED manufactures are doing to their panels every six months. You don't want to be caught with a shipping container full of these panels and then read about the improved version that costs less. Similar panels that didn't dim were twice as much not over a year ago.
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Old 03-21-2014, 07:25 PM   #15
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I use to import that same type fixtures. What varies the price is his shipping. The fewer units he ships from China, the more expensive they get. Right now he probably is keeping his stock down because of all the improvements the LED manufactures are doing to their panels every six months. You don't want to be caught with a shipping container full of these panels and then read about the improved version that costs less.

Makes a lot of sense...
Do you think the "new" version will be any better? At least a significant amount?
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They are always making improvements. I think these panels have evolved a long way in the five years I have dealt with them. I would get the newest version you can get.
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So, their evolution process is like small steps?
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I use to import that same type fixtures. What varies the price is his shipping. The fewer units he ships from China, the more expensive they get. Right now he probably is keeping his stock down because of all the improvements the LED manufactures are doing to their panels every six months. You don't want to be caught with a shipping container full of these panels and then read about the improved version that costs less. Similar panels that didn't dim were twice as much not over a year ago.
But every time I see the straight blue and white units being auctioned, it says over 100 sold or something like that...I mean, this guy is not holding on to these things, so why not keep them coming? Why would he care about tech advances...why not offer the cheap ones AND the more expensive better ones?
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Both the LED emitter manufacturers as well as the fixture manufacturer are always making changes. For LEDs it's efficiency and color, for the fixtures it's the casing and the drivers. The first Chinese drivers were junk. I had about a 20% failure rate early on. Now it's rare to have a failure.
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But every time I see the straight blue and white units being auctioned, it says over 100 sold or something like that...I mean, this guy is not holding on to these things, so why not keep them coming? Why would he care about tech advances...why not offer the cheap ones AND the more expensive better ones?

For the same reason Mercedes dealers don't sell Kias. Would you want to explain to every customer why each panel, rated similarly and looking much alike, is superior to the other one you carry?

When your making 10% on each panel, the advances cause you to be careful in how many panels you stock, frankly on EBay he could have said he has 1000 of them. Makes you look like a big player, which he may be.

Do the math, to sell a panel with free shipping at $100, it works out like this:

Cost of shipment to customer: $6
Cost of shipment from China per panel: $10 (minimum)
eBay seller fee; $5
That leaves $79
If he makes $10, then the panel has to cost him $69. That's if you ship in volume, too much and your shipping tanks your margin. He's tweeking his pricing based on demand and shipping costs.
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