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Old 08-30-2005, 12:53 PM   #1
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Overcrowded?

Hey,

I was considering adding a Lemon Peel Dwarf Angel to my Reef tank but wondered if you guys thought I would be overcrowding it with Bio-Load and fish types. Here is a breakdown of how it is now

50 Gallon Reef

1 Yellow Watchman Goby
1 Two Spot Sand Sifting Goby
3 Pajama Cardinalfish
1 Six Line Wrasse
1 Yellow Basslet
1 Royal Gramma
1 Maroon Clownfish
2 Green Chromis
1 Bi-Color Blenny
1 Purple Firefish
1 Mandarin Fish

Various Shrimp and Crabs

Various Corals

Various Other creatures

Filtration:

Pro Clear Aquatics Wet/Dry Filter w/ Sump and Skimmer
CPR Bak Pak Skimmer
Ehiem Pro II Canister
Aqua Clear 500 Modified Refugium
50 pds Live Rock
DSB

any ideas regarding adding a Lemon Peel?
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I think you're already past overstocking and shouldn't add anymore IMO. How's your nitrates? 20ish, I'll bet. If I'm wrong, you must be doing something incredibly correct.
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:05 PM   #3
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Nope Ray - no nitrates at all, my guess is running two skimmers and doing weekly water changes of 15% are the way to go. I do agree that I am overstocked though I read about people with reef tanks and lots of fish. The old school of thought was that in reef tanks you should have little to no fish but it seems with all the filtration methods avaliable it can be possible to have your cake and eat it to. Though I think after some research I am gonna skip the Angel mainly since I read it may nip at Brain Corals and Mantles - and that is no good.

I keep a ten gallon tank running under my UV sterilozer shelf at all times with water for water changes. Using the pump from the sump I take about 10 gallons out weekly then hit the pump on the ten gallon which is connected by vinyl tubing to the 50 gallon reef and refill it. The water is run through with the main tanks' water weekly so not only does it make the amount of water greater to balance salinity - it makes water changes a snap.

Now if only I could build a robot to clean my powerheads and filters!
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Besides from the stocking issue, a Lemonpeel is going to be a terror in your reef tank. About a year ago, I added this angel to my 50 gal and I quickly learned it was a big mistake. Not only did this fish CONSTANTLY nip at my corals, it also would harass my snails, shrimp, and starfish. I ended up returning it to the store. However, maybe other people have had different experiences. Just a heads up, HTH.
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Now if only I could build a robot to clean my powerheads and filters!
... and change water, and top off water, and clean the front glass .

You build it and we will come.

That's awesome on your trate readings.
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Hopefully not, the tank has been set up for a while and actually at one time had a higher bio load than it does now. I kept a purple tang for some time - not a good idea - but I have a good friend who owns a large fish retail store so it had a place to go. Anyhow I keep an eye of my levels and my exact nitrate reads at .1 ppm which is barely detectable and my P04 reading came out at .1 ppm which is very low also.

My assumption is many of the nitrates are utilized in the refuge. To me it seems odd the reef keepers fear overstocking so when the reef enviroment in nature is generally very over crowded. Given that currents and other natural works clean the water to perfection it is still possible to garnish good qualtiy with advanced filtration and regular water changes.
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IMO if you system is doing well, I would leave it be. Adding another decent size fish might tilt it in the wrong direction. You are without a doubt pushing it.
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I think the tank is overstocked. Even if nitrates are 0ppm, that doesn't mean the fish have ample room to swim about, or grow properly.
I definitely would not add another fish...probably not even another hermit crab.
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