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Old 08-25-2012, 01:29 AM   #21
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Hmm thats strange vinegar is very weak. Sucks though hope you get through it without a loss.
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Old 08-25-2012, 01:35 AM   #22
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Hmm thats strange vinegar is very weak. Sucks though hope you get through it without a loss.
Well as Capt pointed out it was somewhere in the range of 250ml in a 29g tank to go from 8.0 to 5.5 so id say quantity overrides weakness lol but thanks, im pretty sure everything will pull through. Stressed a bit im sure but doing good.
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Old 08-25-2012, 03:20 AM   #23
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Looks like im experiencing a bacteria bloom tonight as expected. 2am and water is cloudy, almost milky, ph is fine, fish are fine, corals appear fine.

I got water made up, will be doing a 50% change tom after full testing to first see where everything stands.

If i have 0 nitrates and 0 phosphates tom when i test im gonna laugh my you know what off. Ill start a new fad and call it 'EXTREME Carbon Dosing'

Maybe im on to something lol.
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I can't imagine you getting that much vinegar in there to drop PH. I dose about 50mL a day to my 55g with no PH drop. When i do clean with vinegar i soak everything after
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I can't imagine you getting that much vinegar in there to drop PH. I dose about 50mL a day to my 55g with no PH drop. When i do clean with vinegar i soak everything after
Yeah i didnt believe it as first either, I think this morning pretty much proves it tho, heavy bacteria bloom.

The way it happened i can easily see that much getting in there. In a 5g bucket after all 2g of it was vinegar. The skimmer holds about 1.5 g or so, so i dumped a good amount in the tank.

Here is this mornings bloom.
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I'm glad you got it under control, but your math is off. 270ml is way less than a gallon. 1 gallon = ~3785 ml. So much less vinegar than you thought. 270 ml is a little over 18 tablespoons.

Good luck with the bacterial bloom, I had one this week (not nearly as bad as yours) and just waited it out.
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I'm glad you got it under control, but your math is off. 270ml is way less than a gallon. 1 gallon = ~3785 ml. So much less vinegar than you thought. 270 ml is a little over 18 tablespoons.

Good luck with the bacterial bloom, I had one this week (not nearly as bad as yours) and just waited it out.
Thanks. A little confused as to what your saying with the math. I poured about 1.5 g of water that was in the skimmer into the tank. This 1.5g contained a diluted vinegar, about 2 parts vinegar And 4.5 parts water. And capt calculated it would have taken 270ml to go from 8.2-5.5. If your trying to say something that im missing please let me know thanks again.
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The way it happened i can easily see that much getting in there. In a 5g bucket after all 2g of it was vinegar. The skimmer holds about 1.5 g or so, so i dumped a good amount in the tank.

Here is this mornings bloom.
This is what I was replying to.

The "after all 2g of it was vinegar. "

Obviously you meant that was your soaking solution and I mistook it as you pouring 5g of water into your tank 2g of which was vinegar. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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This is what I was replying to.

The "after all 2g of it was vinegar. "

Obviously you meant that was your soaking solution and I mistook it as you pouring 5g of water into your tank 2g of which was vinegar. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Ah ok, lol, yeah i was wondering if you misunderstood or if i did. No biggie thanks for the help tho.

Bacteria bloom is pretty crazy right now. Can barely see the back glass. Saltwater is mixing and heating up. Ive never accidentally dosed vinegar so I'm gonna be curious to see if i had a reduction in nitrates and phosphates. Ill let you all know if there was a change.
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This could be relevant but I'm not sure. I used to use an acclimation method for fish that were shipped across the country called ammonia acclimation. I learned it from an international Florida live animal importer. What you do, simplified, is to take the fish that arrived from the bags and pour them into a styrofoam box then test the pH with a meter. Sometimes it was below 6. Then I would take tank water and add muriatic acid until the pH matched the water that the fish came in. I then drip acclimated them to allow them to safely flush out the ammonia that was in their tissue. Ammonia is incredibly destructive to saltwater fish at normal pH levels but not at low pH levels. You then discard most of the ammonia diluted low pH water and re-acclimate them with higher pH water (about 7-7.5), then pour out the water again and acclimate them a final time with regular tank water. The survival rate that came from all this work was draaaastically higher than any other method I know of but the big benefit was much less fish illness.

I'm just telling you this because I know that fish trapped in a bag with very low pH, high ammonia and low oxygen can survive just fine if the ammonia is dealt with. The brief low pH drop you had shouldn't harm them much if at all the way you handled it. I wish I knew what to tell you about your corals but I think most if them will recover. I can't say that I know a single reefer, including myself, who could've done as good of a job as you did. Plus you were already exhausted when all this went down. Thumbs up!
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