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Old 10-08-2004, 03:09 PM   #11
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Yard right is an Oldcastle brand name. Oldcastle bought out SouthDown. They are all the same thing. (note that Oldcastle makes a LOT of products including other types of sand. you want to get carribean tropical play sand.)

The vinigar test can be done with any amount of vinegar, but really only requires a couple drops. The Acid in the vinegar reacts with the base of the calcium carbonate and causes the reaction.

Just to be sure I was clear on the silicates/silica thing. Silica based sand IS ok. You DONT get silicates from a silica based sand. That's a common missconception.

I'm not that up to speed on the NO light ratings. I think the t8 and t10 are different wattage or frequency ratings? I think they'll "work" but you may get a shorter lifespan by using the wrong type of bulb in the lamp. Somewhere on the lamp itself it should tell you which type of bulb to you.
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I am like you nad could not find the southdown or anything else for reasonable price. I used the quickcrete silica sand with 20# of crushed coral on the top and it looks great. I have about 3" o silica sand and 1/2" of c.c. I have not had any problems with the silica san being stirred up too much and I had a digging trigger. Loved to relandscape the tank. After a few days the silica sand would shift back down between the crushed coral. No major problems with algea blooms either like the LFS warned me about, just minor typical cyano blooms from a new tank.

Total cost of sand
$20 for 20# c.c.
$8 for 75# silica sand
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well just got off the phone with busy beaver.
they cant order it for me
WHAT A BUMMER, THAT BITES
guess i'll get the high dessert sand and caribsea
man! :|
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Old 10-09-2004, 08:43 PM   #14
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well i am gonna try a test
got 1 bag(50#)
puting it in my 5g eclipse with my whisper 20
just plain tap water no declorinating , no salt
just a test

think i have a leak or maybe it was just me being a little sloppy setting it up

cant see nothing even after an hour
the filter will filter up to 20g i have a 5g

hopefully after i come home it will be clear enough to see
i think it will work
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came home this morning and the tank didnt clear up much still a milk cloud
the one thing i didnt do is rinse it off first
BIG MISTAKE!!!
this sand has ALOT of sediment
so i drained the water out and rinsed it out with fresh water
and it looks **** good
nice white color and a nice texture i think i will try it !
just gotta rinse the sand several times (2 or 3)
the sand doesnt pass the vinegar test but thats what the caribsea aragonite
will be for
also looks very nice under actnic lights
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Is the 90 empty or full of water??
If empty place sand in tank, cover all sand with large plastic bag and place a glass bowl in the middle. Fill tank with water pouring into glass bowl only. Plastic bag will float as water fills just keep pouring into bowl till tank is full. Take out bag & bowl you will have near clear water...
Place in rock and wiggle so it gets imbedded into the sand, try and have it touch the bottom glass so you have a good footing.
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With some live rock to seed it, you should be good to go.!!
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seahams suggestion is an old tried and true method. I use it all the time.
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i'm gonna drain the tank into containers
ditch the current sand (golden beach play sand)
and put the base in
top it off with carribisea then refill it up with the saved water
ph 7.9
sg 1.024

no fish or inverts or corals
no life in the tank
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