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Old 01-17-2005, 11:29 AM   #11
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about the sharks

I have also considered getting a shark. The local pet store always has little banded sharks available.
My questions would be...
heavy filtration....what would be recommended?
other species of fish... can a banded shark do ok in a community tank?
Size...I know they are a smaller species of shark so would there be a tank available in a regular petshop that would work for one?
I understand what you are saying about sharks not being a good choice for a private tank but the way I see it is someone is going to take these little guys home. Most likely they will be totally clueless on how to care for a shark. I am pretty much clueless at this point but want to know what I can do to provide one with as much comfort as possible that is realistic in a persons home?? So any and all advice would be greatly appreciated
I honestly had set out to have a beautiful reef tank. I would still love one but I know that would only take away from a sharks space. Please any and all advice would be great! I have already read the reasons not to have one and I agree with you totally but someone is going to buy these babies and I would prefer to be that person and know they will have the best that can be offered to them at that point
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:45 AM   #12
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I am not disagreeing with any prior posts on whether to keep a shark or a ray or both in a home tank. I have a 6 mos. old bamboo shark which is around 14". Sharks are messy therefore I have 2 overflows which run around 270 gph each (I think it's each). I have a powerhead in tank and a mag 18 for my return which keeps everything moving. I placed two outlets on the return...one mid tank level pointing in one direction and one at the bottom pointing in another direction. When considering a shark....full grown size is key. They can live for a very long time.....and one way to keep their size down is to moderate how much/often you feed them. I am not saying starve them...most sharks when well adapted will eat until they are full. These sharks (as most are) are not reef safe for 2 major reasons....they will nip at your corals and the like, and they need a lot of swimming room especially when they get bigger. The key to purchasing one is to have your LFS get one for you (without paying)...put it on hold first. The next step is to let them keep it for a month. Check on it every couple of days (if possible) and ask them to feed it while you are there if they haven't. This way you can tell whether it's a hardy shark who will adapt well or one who may not. I cannot suggest smaller than a 180gal tank for any home shark. In fact the bamboo is probably one of the one home sharks you can keep....possibly and epaulette but I wouldn't push it.

As far as rays go....you need at least a 240 gal tank that is deep since rays are very wide....they are also not reef safe and may not do well with a shark. Most home sharks hang out on the bottom of the tank...so do the rays....which will cover themselves in the sand. You don't want the shark skmming the bottom for food only to have it hit the ray and start something you can't stop.

I am fortunate in that my shark has always eaten well (I did the steps above of watching him) and mine doesn't lay on the bottom all day. He is freqeuntly found swimming around the nooks and crannies of my artificial reef.

Compatability (sp?) for them is tough. See below for my stock...minus my trigger. Other than my koran angel which won't be added for years I don't have any other plans for more stock other than maybe a tang down the road.

The one positive that I have found with my shark is his hardiness.....which is why I would tell the original poster to not get the blue dot ray....they are VERY hard to keep out of their natural environment. My shark was introduced after I thought my cycle was complete.....it wasn't and he has survived as if nothing was wrong at all through the last couple of weeks....I obviously suggest you wait until you know your cycle is complete before acclimating anything.

HTH and this is a forum so all opinions and thoughts are welcome...that's why we are here
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:50 AM   #13
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I would like to find a local person to help me purchase and set up everything needed for my tank...regardless of whether I decide to get the shark I would like or if I stick with a well populated reef I want to know it is being done right... Does anyone know or recommend a person in the Peoria Illinois area?
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Hi...Welcome to AquariumAdvice!!!
By banded shark I am assumming you are refering to the brownbanded bamboo shrark (Chiloscyllium punctatum). Keep in mind that this shark can easily grow over a foot in the first year alone and has a maxium leght of just under 4 ft. You stated you were aware of the reasons not to get a shark so I will not touch on those. Keep in mind that most species of sharks available in the aquarium industry are mainly bottom dwellers. This particular species likes to dig in sand. Most are inactive and do nothing but sit on the bottom of the tank. Honestly, not exactly Discover Channel material. I think people would be far more impressed with a nice living reef tank then looking at an empty tank with a shark burried in the sand. Just my .02...Lando
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I agree 100% that a beautiful reef is far more impressive... I guess my save the world attitude jumps in on that one.. If I do not get him the person that does might not do what is best for him... UGH!!! either way I am in no way ready to purchase anything major eyt. I still need someone to help me set up and establish a tank. some how taking the advice of the 17 yr olds at the local pet shop does not seem like enough.. I really need a person to walk me through getting a tank in order regardless of what I decide to put in it... I do not want to lose a bunch of animals due to my ignorance... I know go buy a betta bowl but I want something gorgeous and exotic
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First, I would recommend getting a good book. I like "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist" by Robert Fenner. You can also check out the "articles" section at the top of the page for good info on cycling and getting started. Most importanly...keep asking questions...Lando
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thanks so much I will look this book up... it is a huge investment and I just want it to be right and beautiful!! I'm just curious... how long before I can actually add animals?
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That really depends on how you cycle the tank. It does take a while for a tank to properly cycle. 4-6 weeks is a good estimate. The bigest mistake new comers make is adding fish too soon or adding too many fish at once.
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If some one would like to keep a shark or ray in an home aquarium. I found this formula.

The only way that you can keep even one shark of 3' or smaller is this formula. There is formula on how to determine the tank size. I believe it is 3 times the length of the shark full grown and 2 times the length for the width of the tank. As for the height it is something like 36" and up.

With this formula that I found, this is what you get for ONE shark.

36" tall
108" long
72" wide
Gives you a grand Total= 1,211 Gallons

This is the SMALLEST tank any one should keep a shark in.
You will also want to Provide caves and ledges as hiding areas is part of the tank.

This is what I know, Hope it helped
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