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Old 10-29-2013, 10:26 PM   #51
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Old 10-30-2013, 04:44 AM   #52
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If I do quarantine wrasses and gobys do I just not treat with copper? And couldn't I just leave the sand in there instead of throwing it away? Also do hawkfish go in this category also?
If you are bringing fish home that has ich you can't keep the sand because the parasite will live in it. So your QT will be carrying ich and completely defeat the purpose of having it. You can try hypo salinity of course. Theoretically it should kill all ich including the ones in the sand bed but who knows if it will kill it. May be posters with FOWLR tanks can pitch in here if they have treated their main tank with hypo salinity and did not throw away sand.

A hawkfish is a go for QT. I considered a flame hawkfish and specifically asked a fish store owner about QTing it. He said hawkfish would be fine but not a goby or a wrasse.
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hypo kills off ANY living bacteria in a tank...it doesn't differentiate between good or bad. so doing hypo on a dt would undo all the cycling process you go through.
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If you are bringing fish home that has ich you can't keep the sand because the parasite will live in it. So your QT will be carrying ich and completely defeat the purpose of having it. You can try hypo salinity of course. Theoretically it should kill all ich including the ones in the sand bed but who knows if it will kill it. May be posters with FOWLR tanks can pitch in here if they have treated their main tank with hypo salinity and did not throw away sand.

A hawkfish is a go for QT. I considered a flame hawkfish and specifically asked a fish store owner about QTing it. He said hawkfish would be fine but not a goby or a wrasse.

I don't want to do hypo. And I've posted on another thread about my own qt tank that I had a thin layer of sand in it and nobody told me that they wud live in the sand and not be able to be killed with copper. So how do you keep ich out of your main tank if your putting a wrasse or goby in without quarantining it because you can't have sand in the qt
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And then what's the point of putting sand in the qt in a Tupperware bowl so you can put a wrasse or goby in there if it's not even going to do any good to treat with copper in there because they will just live in the sand bed? Are you saying my 4 weeks I've been treating for copper has been for nothing and that my 3 fish could still have ick just because I have a little bit of sand in there?? How does copper not get into the sand and kill the ick?
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ICH don't stay in the sand once it hatches it enters a free swimming stage that's when most treatments will kill it That why we QT and treat for 4-6 weeks so we can be sure to catch it at the right time When i QT gobys or any other sand dwellers i put the sand in a small bowl this lets them burrow and lowers stress for them.
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Ok so the 4 weeks of treatment hasn't been for nothing. Do I take that sand out and throw it away when I get the fish out?
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I dont, I rinse it with tap water and let it dry for next time. I do keep it in a bag marked Copper so it dont get mixed with any other sands
All my QT stuff get cleaned with tap water and vinegar The HOB gets refilled with new poly-fill and is put back on the sump to be reseeded for next time.
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I dont, I rinse it with tap water and let it dry for next time. I do keep it in a bag marked Copper so it dont get mixed with any other sands All my QT stuff get cleaned with tap water and vinegar The HOB gets refilled with new poly-fill and is put back on the sump to be reseeded for next time.
If there is a case of ich, it is better to clean with a mild Clorox solution though, right?
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