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Old 12-15-2004, 02:15 AM   #1
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Quarantine Tank Question

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I have had my first salt water tank up and running but no fish yet. Upon the advice of forum members I set up a quarantine tank with water from the main display tank and it has been up and running for 12 days now, but I am a little concerned about water condition readings and am wondering if it indeed is ready to place my first fish in which will be a clown.

Here are the readings:
Nitrate=20
Nitrite=.5
alkalilnity=40
Ph=7.0
ammonia=.50

This is my first time having saltwater fish and I am not feeling too sure about the quarantine tank and if I should do or add anything to the tank before getting the clown. I have live rock in the main tank and wondering if I should put one of them in the quarantine tank or if that would not be a good idea.

Thank you.

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Old 12-15-2004, 03:33 AM   #2
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You want your PH at 8.0-8.2. 7.0 is VERY low. What brand salt are you using with what water?

Your ammonia and nitrite is also high. What kind of filtration are you running (a simple HOB will usually do)
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Old 12-15-2004, 03:45 AM   #3
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You do not need to put the lr in the quarantine tank. No substrate and a pvc pipe big enough for a fish to hide in is all you need. As theatrus noted, a simple hob filter should be enough for filtration. Remember that when you put a fish in quarantine you need to consistently check your water parameters and do water changes accordingly.
Why is your pH so low? When you test your main tank, is the pH at 7.0 as well? You need to get that up to 8.0-8.2 and be stable at that reading before you even think about adding any livestock. You can use pH buffers if your current salt doesn't get you into the targeted range.

Keep asking questions, and then more questions. No harm in asking, right? Good luck to you!
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Old 12-15-2004, 03:47 AM   #4
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And another question, what is your SG?
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Old 12-15-2004, 12:24 PM   #5
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I sounds like the main tank has not been completly cycled.
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Old 12-15-2004, 12:59 PM   #6
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Thanks everybody for input..

The brand of salt I am using is called OCEANIC natural salt.

Here are the readings from main tank

SG is .020 ( which I think could be a little low)
Nitrite=0
Nitrate=20
Alkalinity=80
PH=7.3
ammonia ( between 0.25 and 0.50 )

The main tank has 3 pieces of live rock in the 29gal tank and has a nice group of bright medium green algae. I used the fresh shrimp approach to cycling and it was determined earlier by members of the forum that the tank had cycled although I need to get the PH up in the main tank as well.

It is the quarantine tank I am worried about and want to know what can be done to raise ph and get ammonia to 0. The SG in the quarantine tank is also only 0.20 and I am using the hob filter as well.

Thanks....Steve
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Old 12-15-2004, 03:24 PM   #7
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How long has your main tank been set up? This is important because we don’t know if you tank has been successfully cycled. Are you familiar with the Nitrogen Cycle? Water changes will bring the ammonia down if it’s a well established tank but it it’s not it will only prolong the nitrogen cycle. I would not start QT fish before I had my main tank stable…especially if you are using water from your main tank. You should really focus on your main tank because that’s going to be your long term fish environment plus that ammonia that you have in your main tank will not fix it self if it’s an established tank. Nitrite and ammonia should be (0) in a well established tank

Info on the Nitrogen cycle. This must be completed before setting up any new tank.
http://www.algone.com/cycle.htm
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IMO no real need to cycle a QT as long as the main is completely cycled. I keep a 10gal on hand for QT. When I think I am going to need it I put a sponge filter in the main for a few days to build up biological load. When ready simply fill the bare QT from the main place some PVC and sponge filter and you are set.
The key is to have the main cycled though. No need to cycle or continuously maintain the QT this way.

As suggested above make sure are your levels are good in the main before you start this.

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Correct Aaron.....to cut down on additional maintenance and creating a whole new environment….I always tear down the QT.
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Old 12-16-2004, 03:12 AM   #10
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My Main tank has been up with lr and piece of raw shrimp since October 13. At that time nitrate was 20, nitrite was 5, and ph was 7.3 and SG was 1.020. After a couple of weeks nitrate still at 20 and nitrite dropped to 3.0. Ph was up to 8.4 In another week, nitrate still 20, nitrite was 0 and ph 8.4. On
Day 25 nitrate at 20, nitrite at 0 and ph now at 7.8 and the piece of raw shrimp almost completely disappeared. All through this period thus far their appeared some of the yellowish tan stuff in the tank and most of that has now disappeared and now have bright green algae growth. On day 35 nitrite at 0, nitrate at 40 and ph 7.8. I did my first ammonia test and it was at 0.25 On the second of December I did an approximate 50 per cent water change and currently main tank is nitrite 0, nitrate 20, ph 7.3 and ammonia between 0.25 and 0.50.

I am thinking that my SG may be a little low because after doing the water change I did not add the additional salt until just yesterday and right now it is very close to 1.020. Should it be a little higher? 1.020 is on the low end of the acceptable levels on the meter I have.

Thanks again everyone....

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