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Old 12-05-2006, 12:07 PM   #1
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Questions on Marine Mollies

I've got a little dwarf lion that I've been feeding ghost shrimp to and have been wondering about the nutritional value of his diet.
Currently I'll let the shrimp gorge themselves on marine flake immediately before I handfeed them to the lion to try and pass on some proper nutrition.

Yesterday the kid at the LFS suggested I get some mollies, marine acclimate them, and let them breed in my fuge to create a "marine" food source.
I'll definitely be doing this if for nothing else but give my little lion some variety in his diet, but I was wondering if there's anyone here who has some experience or knowledge on the subject.

Will future generations of marine mollies possess the proper nutrition for a marine predator?
Will the mollies receive their own proper nutrition from being fed marine flake and mysis?
Any tips on breeding marine mollies in general?
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Live food runs the risk of infection via sickness/parasites and should be avoided IMO.

Have you tried frozen food like Marine Cuisine which most lfs carry? Soaking in Selcon & Garlic extreme will help both entice and enrich the food.
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Me too! Or you could make your own "mush" with stuff from your local grocery store. I also soak mine in garlic/zoe/selcon.
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Old 12-05-2006, 03:04 PM   #5
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Thanks for the suggestions.
For the first few days I tried to get him to eat non-live foods, mysis, krill, etc. to no avail.
He refused every attempt.
I started getting worried about him starving before I picked up some live food to try.
The first shrimp I dropped in the tank didn't last 3 seconds before he sucked it up so that's what I've been feeding him ever since.
I didn't try the trick of soaking any of the non-live foods in what you all suggested.
I'll certainly give that a try.
In the meantime I'd still like to hear any answers to my original post if anyone has them in case this doesn't work.
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It is not uncommon for lionfish to go on a feeding strike for the first week or so of introduction. If it is willingly accepting ghost shrimp, that's good. I do not see a problem with using marine mollies until you can "train" your lion onto a prepared food source. If you QT your mollies and medicate them appropriately there should be no cause for disease transfer; however, enriched fw mollies and/or rosy reds would be optimal imo, and not given as a staple. If it IS eating ghost shrimp, stick with that and make sure they are enriched prior to feeding.
For a food source you can try cut up shrimp (injected w/selco), squid, capelin, etc. I am not sure the size of your dwarf lion, but many seem to like proportionate food items to its relative size to which mysis and krill (unless jumbo) do not suffice. What has worked best for me is using clear rigid airline tubing with a piece of food at the end and mimicking prey around the rockwork where the animal is located. It can take several tries, but don't get discouraged.
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Very informative.
Thanks for the detailed post.
Even tho he's only about 2 inches long, now that you mention it, it makes sense that the mysis were probably way too small to entice him.
I'll be trying the prepared foods again as you've all suggested.
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just a heads up, you can order marine feeder shrimp (like ones from live aquaria) and you dont have to be tossing in fw shrimp, especially if your worried about feeding it fw fish
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You could also try silversides soaked in Garlic extreme. They are a bit bigger than mollies depending on the size that you get and you dont have to worry about diseases.
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I have mollies in my tank. Mollies easily live in marine environment plus they love to eat algae. Do a nice slow drip (3-4 hours) to convert them. Mollies are an easy fish to sex so make sure you get both males and females. Mine produced offspring after the were converted but have not seen offspring since they went into sump. I read somewhere that they were a preferred live food for loins, will check for source and get back to you. Only problem I foresee is produce enough to keep a sustainable stock. May have to keep buying and converting. As far as disease issues I would think that they would be minimal because the mollies are coming from fresh water (super low saline dip, LOL) so would not have marine parasites and any fresh water parasites would be killed by marine environment.
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