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Old 04-11-2007, 05:32 PM   #11
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:08 PM   #13
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thats crul. some one should put that stuff in there drinking water and see how they like it. and mabey while there stuned . hang them from a bambo tree upside down. and see how long they live. lol
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It is dialog such as this that sparks peoples passion about conservation and saving out natural resources. WE are the voice that needs to speak up. WE need to be the group, because of our love for the hobby and the animals we keep, to help facilitate a change. If not us, who then?

Here is a link to a website dedicated to Reef conservation....

http://www.seacology.org/?gclid=CLu1...FSJGgQoddHnYwQ
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:44 AM   #15
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great web site. i contacting the people and donateing some money. its not alot but i guess every little bit helps.its so crazy. this topic has stuck in my head for many days now and and i find my self thinking alot about it and what i could do. i never knew how bad our worlds reefs are.
i just wish there was more i could realy do.
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:56 AM   #16
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Frogspawn,

Global warming has a far, far greater impact on world reefs then marine aquariums (at least in their current capacity) ever could. If you want to learn a lot more about coral reef degredation and the destruction of world oceans I recommend the following programs:

Ocean's Deadliest (Animal Planet)
Coral Reef Adventure (Howard and Michelle Hall DVD)
Deep Sea (Howard and Michelle Hall DVD)
Jean-Michel Cousteau's Ocean Adventures (PBS)
Island of the Sharks (Howard and Michelle Hall DVD)

There are several things that are quickly depleting the world's coral reefs of coral. Siltation is a large problem and in Fiji this was caused by deforestation. As they were cutting down forests silt and machine run-off was washing into a major river that fed directly into the ocean onto a large coral reef. The siltation basically smothered the corals light source and caused for excessive algae blooms. It lowered the oxygen content of the surronding water killing many fish and the end result was total reef destruction. You can witness all of this in the film mentioned above, Coral Reef Adventure.

The next threat hitting reefs today is Global Warming (GW). GW has caused for a rise in ocean tempatures and the warmer water causes many corals to bleach and die. Once the skeleton is bleached unwanted algae grows and the combination of accessive algae and warm water knocks a whole reef system.

The third knocker is overfishing and anchoring. When a boat drops a huge anchor to stay suspended off shore it often knocks right into the reef crushing decades or even centuries worth of coral growth. Compile that with the loss of big fish (highly important to reef ecosystem stability) due to overfishing and you basically have a gigantic threat to reefs. Sadly the things I just mentioned are only human impacts on the reef; natural occruances such as tropical storms and hurricanes can do even more damage!

The aquarium hobby has both a negative and positive impact on fish and coral populations. First the hobby has brought about a great amount of research in coral and invert aquaculture and live breeding. These programs have been used not only to stock aquariums but also build populations of animals on natural coral reefs. There is a T.Clam farm in Florida that breeds clams for the sole purpose of re-stocking carribean and indo-pacific reef systems with these natural filtering animals.

The aquarium hobby sadly has employed methods to capture fish that have accelerated reef decline. The use of cyanide and other poisions to capture fish is the biggie though the use of dynamite is worse (dynamite is mainly used for capturing food fish). Today there are still some rogue nations (mainly in Asia) that still use cyanide but overall its becoming a forgotten practice.

One positive impact the hobby has had regarding fish populations is encouraging nations to protect their reefs with live fish capture. If a nation empolys sustanable techniques, such as net capture and encourages the health of thier reef (much like what takes place in Palua) we can encourage them not to bomb the reef for limestone since the aquarium trade produces a higher profit if they can get healthy animals.

So basically in the scheme of things the hobby has had far less impact on the ocean then many other factors and thankfully has been able too and continues to give back a fair bit!
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cool. i think i might o to my local boarders and see if they have those 3 dvds i would like to see them.
truly i though GW was a hokes to scare people like Y2K stuff but i might do some more research on that subject also. my list beside my computer just keeps rowing of this to look up and buy lol thank u all for the great information. u got say we got some pretty smart people on this form.
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Frogspawn,

Glad to hear you want to check out the DVD films I listed. Howard and Michelle Hall are world famous underwater photographers, most highly noted for IMAX film production and conservation minded ocean films.

Though Global Warming has been proven not to be a hoax but a very real scientific phenomenua. While the causes of Global Warming (i.e. natural warming of Earth's atmosphere or human related causes such as burning of fossil fuels) have been a subject of debate, I dont know of any science minded conservationist that doesnt view Global Warming as a very real problem.

Michael Crichton (author of Jurassic Park) wrote a novel called, State of Fear, where he said that the scientific community had manufactored Global Warming to incite panic in the public. This though is a work of fiction that carries no more real truth then his other novel Jurassic Park. Here is a link to a very detailed article on Global Warming and cites some potential, human and natural causes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming
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A lot of great posts here guys! My thougts are that we should always try and frag or get aquacultured corals to help build the SW industry. If the $$ are there people will invest in aquaculturing more. Also, by having the tanks on display for friends, family, clients,etc. hopefully we can instill a sense of pride and preservation in people to help protect our natural reefs. Boy, with all these two cents we are going to have a pile of money ourselves before too much longer! LOL
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Must people complain that it's the LR we are taking from the reefs is one of the more major problems. So aquacluturing and creating artificial reef rock and taking less LR will help, hopefully.


I plan to try to make some DIY LR this summer. I feel that it would be great to customize my own rocks
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