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Old 11-19-2014, 04:37 PM   #11
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Are putting any plants in it? If so the mud is great for mangroves if not sand can work to I had both in mine I preferred the sand cause it was easier to clean


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I like the reflectivity of white sand. I don't like the looks of bare bottom tanks. Other than aesthetics, you may have a few less critters to choose from when it comes time to stock it, but that's about the only downside.
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Neither, bare bottom. This way things are easier to clean up if necessary. If you have the lbs per gallon in your display, there is no need for additional sand in a refugium. By going the bare bottom route, this gives more room for macro algae to grow. More algae = more nutrient export.

I agree although I was playing with the idea of a bare bottom in the display tank. What are your thought on that?


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Old 11-19-2014, 04:41 PM   #14
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Neither, bare bottom. This way things are easier to clean up if necessary.
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For all we know miracle mud is snake oil.
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Old 11-19-2014, 04:48 PM   #15
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[QUOT E=mr_X;3095340]I like the reflectivity of white sand. I don't like the looks of bare bottom tanks. Other than aesthetics, you may have a few less critters to choose from when it comes time to stock it, but that's about the only downside.[/QUOTE]


Thanks MrX. I was just thinking it would be easier to clean than having sand in there. And your right about less critters to add.



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The only problem with refugium mud is that you have to replenish about 10% every year (so I was told). I am looking to make this build as maintenance free as possible. I don't want to add anything that's not absolutely necessary for the health of the tank.


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Refugium mud is nonsense. I saw a study done on it years ago, and the findings were that there was nothing in it that proved it came from the ocean. The jar I had had pieces of what appears to be red brick in it and shiny, man-made plastic things. IMO, it's from someone's back yard.
That said, I have never vacuumed a sand bed in any of my salt tanks, and never needed to either. If you have a detritus build up, you need to increase flow. If there's a lot of food laying on it. you are overfeeding. A 1" sand bed needs no maintenance.
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I think a sandbed in the display is a good idea. It is a good filter too. Keeping the sump bare for a scrub if necessary is a good idea IMO. But still gives more room for more algae. Want rooting macros then toss it in on some rock.
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Refugium mud is nonsense. I saw a study done on it years ago, and the findings were that there was nothing in it that proved it came from the ocean. The jar I had had pieces of what appears to be red brick in it and shiny, man-made plastic things. IMO, it's from someone's back yard.
That said, I have never vacuumed a sand bed in any of my salt tanks, and never needed to either. If you have a detritus build up, you need to increase flow. If there's a lot of food laying on it. you are overfeeding. A 1" sand bed needs no maintenance.

Thanks you for the information. I do have a buildup of detritus in my 29 gallon tank so I will increase the flow and I think I have my power heads up to high in the tank so I will move them down some.

The only reason I put the power heads up high is because I was getting a film settling on the surface of the water so I moved my power heads up to get rid of that. I have a hang on overflow box on that tank and in the instructions they claimed that it was suppose to skim the surface water but I haven't seen it do that yet.


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I think a sandbed in the display is a good idea. It is a good filter too. Keeping the sump bare for a scrub if necessary is a good idea IMO. But still gives more room for more algae. Want rooting macros then toss it in on some rock.

I think I agree with you that it is a benefit to have the sand in there. I am planning on leaving the so bare bottom although I may put a few small pieces of rock in the bottom.


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