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Old 09-28-2011, 11:07 AM   #31
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Great looking rock!
I recently just order 15 lbs. Of pukani rock, and 5 pounds of refugium rubble. Even though its a small buy, I think it's my best in sw fish keeping. I highly recommend BRS
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:34 PM   #32
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Wow looks great that's some big rock
LOL Oh, yes. Not having done this before, when BRS called to ask me what sizes I wanted (as I had enclosed a note for them with the order that I want some large pieces...they called before filling the order), I naively said, "Just send the largest pieces you have."

Their response was classic, "How big a tank do you have? Because we'd need a tractor trailer to move the largest piece to you!" Not sure if he was stretching the point, but at that point I was clueless about what I should get... so after going back and forth for a few minutes, I suggested he select the 3 coolest pieces he could break/find...figuring that I can always make them smaller but not bigger.

I'm planning on breaking up at least the smaller of the 3 pieces... get some rubble for the sump and to create some other scape interests..

So, here I am... now wanting a larger tank to put them in. I have some concerns that the 57lbs for my 65 gallon is taking up too much swimming room for the fish... so, I measured the water displacement using a 32 gallon Brute and looks to be a bit under 5 gallons.

That said, the 5 gallon displacement does not take into account the "physical space/area/volume" the rock will take up in the tank...it's no longer on the living room floor... I needed to move it after I got it wet as it's... so I'm relying on memory, but it certainly filled up the 32 gallon container to the 25 gallon mark.

Maybe I'm over thinking this...
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Old 10-02-2011, 01:01 PM   #33
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Trial Scape With All 57 lbs of Pukani In 65g

Finally...

Here are some shots of the aquascape we are considering using the Pukani. To my surprise, I seem to have managed to place all (but some rubble created as a by-product of chiseling and hacksaw work) of the 57 lbs into the display tank. Originally was going to use the rubble in the fuge but now am considering using mud.

Re: special grade reef sand. Not all in place. Just wanted to get a sense of rock volume and placement, etc.

What do you guys think?

QUESTION:

As noted in the photo, the center section is comprised of multiple pieces, so it's not stable. How best to glue or attach? Super Glues have been suggested, but the rock is now damp as I had it in a 32 gal Brute with water to check displacement volume. And so the rock is still damp after almost 10 days of drying. Any ideas?

Hoping to get this resolved today so that I can mix and place the saltwater.
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Old 10-02-2011, 05:10 PM   #34
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Silicone it in the center. It can dry wet
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:09 AM   #35
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Silicone it in the center. It can dry wet
Takes too long to set. Using Super Glue Gel, I've glued two test small test pieces (not in the tank) and will check in the morning to see if in fact they have held together.

For the odd fitting, I thought drilling and using vinyl rod which I read about today.
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:12 AM   #36
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Takes too long to set. Using Super Glue Gel, I've glued two test small test pieces (not in the tank) and will check in the morning to see if in fact they have held together.

For the odd fitting, I thought drilling and using vinyl rod which I read about today.
Why not use the aquarium safe putty? I used it all over my tank for the rocks
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Why not use the aquarium safe putty? I used it all over my tank for the rocks
What brand have you used and, for gluing live base rock to itself?

I'm asking because product results reviews vary from the resellers I've visited.
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I think it was "aquastick" by two little fishies
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The putty barely holds frags. I would go with the rods.

However, unless you are hanging some pieces up to create a swim through, I wouldn't bother. I might also flip one of th rocks over so that the narrow end is on the bottom.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:43 PM   #40
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Final Solution For Pukani Aquasacpe

After lots of research and weighing the pros and cons of several approaches, including epoxy, drilling and using either vinyl or acrylic rods, CA glues and/or a combination of different techniques... I elected to have the structural benefits of the Pukani work for me and take the easiest approach.

Pukani being very lightweight and very suitable to a Lincoln log approach, I took care to work with the rock... have it tell me... where each piece was added to have some sort of interlock with another piece. In this way, every piece stood or hung on to another without glue, etc. This allowed me to use very straightforward CA glues as all I really needed was some reasonable amount of adhesion.

Before gluing I spoke with both Loctite and BSI (makers of IC-GEL). Charlee from BSI was very helpful. Cannot say the same for any product info I got from Loctite, so I went with IC-Gel and Krazy Glue. The liquid form of CA was applied on top of the gel - this helped the gel permeate deeper into the pores of the Pukani (which because it is so porous worked for me). BSI recommended letting this combination sit for 24 hrs. before adding saltwater. So, the saltwater will be added either tonight and/or tomorrow.

The final scape is very similar but different than posted previously (above). Lots of running (swimming room) for fish and generous viewing from front and sides - very important to me, especially as my favorite leather chair is cater-cornered to the right side of the tank... and I look into the back, front, and side.
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