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Old 06-05-2006, 12:03 AM   #1
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should i use this buffer?

hey, i just reallized that my freshwater pH test comes w/a pH UP bottle...

heres the link to it

http://www.petsmart.com/global/produ...N=2030152&Ne=2

My question is...since my pH is kinda low in my saltwater tank, could i use this next time i do a PWC to bring it up? I really dont know, since its a freshwater test kit. Would it even bring it up that high? and if anyone has a picture of the little color chart that you hold the test tube up to to read it...please post it...i've lost mine.

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Old 06-05-2006, 09:29 AM   #2
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I doubt you could use it. I use Kent Marine's superbuffer dkh.. maintains ph nicely as well as alkalinity..
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You shouldn't have to buffer. Just have your PHs pointed to the surface to add more gas exchange. I used to use a buffer (I can't remember what brand), but I could never keep the pH stable. I would have to buffer every day. I have found that the lid I used to have was giving me problems with gas exchange. I now have lights that are above the tank and my pH is much better.
What is your pH now?
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Old 06-05-2006, 11:56 AM   #4
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i have the powerheads doing that right now...still 7.7...I dont wanna use a buffer if i dont have to because i dont wanna add it every day mostly.

As for my lid, i dont have one...open top, and i've got a couple fo my PH's pointing at the top (not directly up, but you know.) I'm doing a water change later today so i'll see what happens. I'm thinkin about switching my salt if this water change doesnt work..i'm on oceanic, but i dont like it.

oh, and speakin of salt...do i have to wait the whole 24 hours after mixing it before i do my change? i mixed it at about 4 or 5 yesterday evening, but i was just wondering if i actually have to wait till that time tonight, or if i can just do it this morning, or around 12 or something.


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24-36 hours is reccommended. I don't always do it for a full 24 hours, but I try to. It just depends on time restraints. Some is better than none. After my 1st water change, I just mixed it and added to my tank. I think the stressed my fish, all of them had nipped tails the next day.
I think CC might help keep the pH a littler higher, I think I read that in another post.
As for salt, I use instant ocean. Others like Oceanic. That might be a cause, I have never used it, so I don't know if it has a low pH or not.
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Old 06-05-2006, 01:19 PM   #6
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ya a bunch of people that i've heard from that use oceanic say that it sucks. they say its high in...ah crap i cant remmeber, but they said it was high in something, which causes the pH to drop. Others say they use it w/no problems...wish i had no problems w/it cuz i can get it for 6 bucks for the 50 gallon jug! I'll wait till at least noon to do my change, that will be 20 hours. And i'll post back later to let you know if it worked.
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I just started ordering my salt online. I paid $31.99 for the 160G bucket....

https://www.thatpetplace.com/MainPro...%200062%200288
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wow, that seems like a pretty good price....how much does that go for in stores? like 50? and how much is shipping on yours? also, i've heard that chaeto uses carbon dioxide, which lowers pH...i'm getting a small hob fuge on friday w/some in it...think it'll work?
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My LFS sells the 50Gallon for something like $20-$30, I think....

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...fm?pcatid=4856
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i've heard that chaeto uses carbon dioxide, which lowers pH...i'm getting a small hob fuge on friday w/some in it...think it'll work?
Not too sure on that one. I think it might help control nitrites or phosphates (i'll let someone that knows for sure answer).
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also, i've heard that chaeto uses carbon dioxide, which lowers pH...
If your having PH problems in all likely hood cheato will not fix it. It will help stabilize PH when on an opposite lighting schedule than the tank in a refugium. FWIW all photosynthetic corals and algaes use CO2, that's why a tanks PH is highest during the day.
What brand test kit are you using and how old is it? What's your turnover rate (gph/tank size)? You may want to verify your results w/ a LFS if possible.
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