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Old 08-13-2005, 04:14 AM   #1
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Stocking a 75 Gallon Predator Tank

okay so i don't want any live rock in this tank. it's gonna be strictly fish. how does this look:

2 regal tangs
3 yellow tangs
a picasso trigger
a long-spine porcupinefish
a lionfish
a banded bamboo shark

now i plan on buying all species as young as possible. so the tangs will be about 2 inches long, 3 inches for both the trigger and puffer, 4 for the lion, and the shark will be hatched from an egg and sold when it reaches 15 inches or so. i plan on feeding moderately.

how's the list look? overstocked? i haven't bought the tank yet, so i could possibly upgrade to a 90 gallon. could a 90 gallon house a grown bamboo shark? they don't really swim very much...
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Old 08-13-2005, 04:17 AM   #2
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Overstocked. Extremely over stocked.

You are putting 5 tangs in a 75 Gal tank, and a shark.

I'd go research these fishes needs a bit more.
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Old 08-13-2005, 05:09 AM   #3
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okay but i could easily sell a few as they reached full size. like how fast does a bamboo shark grow if i feed him lightly? why exactly do tangs need so much swimming room?
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Old 08-13-2005, 06:31 AM   #4
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Don't know, never had one.

I have a 75 and i got told not even to get 1 tang.

Sharks, i don't know much about them but at rtaw they said no sharks unless the tank is at least 10x3x3.
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Old 08-13-2005, 10:27 AM   #5
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Wow, that is going to be one crowded tank. Seriously, way too many fish in there. One tang is okay in a 75, two is really pushing it (although many do it). Skip the shark as they require much larger tanks as well. The trigger will destroy the lionfish. I suggest you reconsider the use of LR in your tank. Go for a FOWLR. Keeping water parameters at acceptable levels is a big challenge in aggressive tanks. The use of LR will certainly work in your (and your fish's) benefit.
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Tangs, by nature, are just active fish. They grow large and need room to roam. They are also a fish that does not handle environmental stress (i.e. feeling crowded) very well. Stress=disease=death of the fish.
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i may consider a bit of live rock. the shark needs more room? like how much, and for what? as far as i can tell from the bamboo sharks i've seen, they just sit on the bottom all day. are you sure that the trigger would attack the lionfish? would a 90 gallon suffice for all of this?
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You will need a 300+ gal tank for the livestock you have listed. Yes, I am sure the trigger will attack the lion. Sharks really require large circular tnks with sand substrate. Plain and simple...too many fish for the size of tank and very poor compatability between the fish.
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I have said this before in many posts, and I am sure many disagree with me, however my experience tells me there are far more exceptions then there are rules in this hobby. I would aggree that this sounds like a very crowded tank with all these fish. I also (like you I am guessing) like the look of a tank with alot of fish in it. I think it is much more exciting to watch, and just more beautiful overall.

My experience, and again just my personal experience is that the trigger may be fine with your lion. I have had 2 in a 72 gallon bowfront for a long time with no problems at all. If you are worried I would suggest a Niger instead as they tend to be pretty docile compared to other triggers.

I also had a porc puffer in with these guys with no problem. I am sorry to say that I would just forget about the shark. In reality this species is not really going to add any excitment to your tank, and will most likely just lay on the bottom. They just need some more room to move when they want to.

The tangs... You would prob be ok with one of each, maybe maybe maybe 2 yellow. What I would suggest is to prioritize your list of fish and then add the important ones first (preferable the less aggresive one first). After you add them check your levels and see where you are. If they stay ok for a few weeks then add the next on your list and check again.

Basically you will always find people that tell you to do it a different way. The bottom line is that an extremely overcrowded tank is no fun at all. You will end up have to do so much maintanance to just keep up with water levels, algea, and worst of all death, it will take the fun right out of it.

I think best to just take it slow, ad a little at a time, and watch your levels and how the fish are getting along. Not only will this save you money, but alot of headache.

Definently re-think the live rock thing. It will help ALOT with keeping a predator tank cleaner. Also a good protein skimmer is a MUST.

Hope that helps
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Well, lets see.
Regal tang needs a tank of 70g per fish
Yellow tang, 50g per fish
Picasso trigger 70g per fish
Porcupine 100g each
Lionfish 30-70 each
bamboo shark nothing under 180g. It doesn't matter if they swim or not, it's bioload and the fact that they can attain a length of over 3ft.

triggers and puffers are not good tankmates for lionfish.
Perhaps you could do, one of each of the two tangs. Then maybe one of either a dwarf lion, trigger, or one of the smaller puffers like the valentini.
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The tangs... You would prob be ok with one of each, maybe maybe maybe 2 yellow.
I agree with one of each but adding two yellows is asking for problems. Yellows should be alone or in a school so it would be one or at least three. And three is to much for a 75g tank. Also, I just want to add, when deciding on what fish to keep, be sure to stock your tank using the adult size of the fish you choose. This gives the fish plenty of room to grow and you don't have to make the decision to get rid of them, or upgrade your tank down the road.
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