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Old 08-10-2010, 12:08 AM   #21
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Unfortunately, your tank is stocked with all those damsels. Your tank likely will not support any more fish. Youll have to remove the damsels if you want other fish. The damsels also will likely terrorize any new fish since they have established themselves. They may even go after each other later.

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Old 08-10-2010, 12:37 AM   #22
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Unfortunately, your tank is stocked with all those damsels. Your tank likely will not support any more fish. Youll have to remove the damsels if you want other fish. The damsels also will likely terrorize any new fish since they have established themselves. They may even go after each other later.

Good thing you found us! Make sure to run any new ideas by us first. Remember, LFS are there to make money. They wont always be straight with you...

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well i only got the damsels to establish the tank. i plan to trade them in on some lionfish and maybe a puffer. they wont be in there much longer but i wanna get the diatom under control before i put more expensive fish in there.
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Old 08-10-2010, 04:49 PM   #23
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Maybe look at a dwarf lionfish, or a fumanchu lionfish. Volitans will get way too big for a 55 gallon tank.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:07 PM   #24
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well im trying to sell my 55 so i can buy a 125 from a store near my house. but that fumanchu one is ugly as ****. and the dwarf is to small imo. but ya your right 2 lions would grow to big but the shop also near me gives credit on fish trade in. so i would just trade them for smaller ones when the time came.
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Most lfs's do a trade in on the assumtion that you will kill the fish before it gets to trade in size.
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I wonder if people in apartments buy puppys with the intent to trade them in when they get bigger.
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Old 08-11-2010, 04:47 AM   #27
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Its very sad that LFS do this to fish. I dont blame the hobbyist, I blame the LFS. They know exactly what they are doing. I dont really understand why they push such cheap fish on people like that?

Id push LIVE ROCK more than ANYTHING for those starting up. My 7lbs of live rock cycled my 7.5g tank in a week.

If I was a LFS, I would push cured live rock on my customers. That would make much more money than a $3.00 fish and get that person back in much faster for more stuff. Not to mention, I could sleep well at night knowing that the fish are also sleeping well.

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Old 08-12-2010, 12:20 AM   #28
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my fish are completely healthy. and i like my fish i bought them to start the hobby up this wasnt the lfs idea. i knew about the trade in before hand when i had a fresh tank.


and live rock is something i need to buy but i dunno if i really want it in my tank. i see some tanks and it looks good then i see others and ya well it looks like doo-doo. im afraid mine will look like doo-doo.
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my fish are completely healthy. and i like my fish i bought them to start the hobby up this wasnt the lfs idea. i knew about the trade in before hand when i had a fresh tank.


and live rock is something i need to buy but i dunno if i really want it in my tank. i see some tanks and it looks good then i see others and ya well it looks like doo-doo. im afraid mine will look like doo-doo.
Well then you should have known better than to cycle with live fish. Not only is it cruel, but a bit stupid seeing as people cant wait for the cycle to end. Doing PWC to keep ammonia and nitrites down (for the poor fish) during the cycle is only going to remove food for the bacteria you are culturing. Also, those fish dont add any nitrifying bacteria so you must wait or find something that does have it.

Those fish likely will have more long term health issues from being exposed to ammonia for prolonged periods. Just because they are "fine" now doesnt mean they will be later. Studies show that exposure to ammonia damage the fish.

Purposefully adding fish to cycle a tank is illogical for the above reasons.

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well i had the water tested by a place in nashville and they said it was safe to add the fish so i dunno. they were gonna get my business reguardless of it being now or then and they are more fish friendly and are not in it for the money so to speak.

i didnt know any other way to cycle the tank other then damsels the lfs said it was easiest to do it that way. just now did i see a link about adding raw shrimp to the tank. had i know that i would of dont that. **** im still learning so in due time will i know where i went wrong and know how to fix it in the future.


i still need to do some research on live rock and how to mount it higher in the tank and how to keep it from moving so on and so forth.
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