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Old 12-26-2015, 11:03 PM   #11
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Sounds like you planned it so well... That means your prepared for it then. lol having a bio cube in your house then like a shark tank and Octopus tank! Do you have exact filtration your using? Because then your all prepared!


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Old 12-27-2015, 05:06 PM   #12
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Sounds like you planned it so well... That means your prepared for it then. lol having a bio cube in your house then like a shark tank and Octopus tank! Do you have exact filtration your using? Because then your all prepared!


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The bio cube will have upgraded filtration, probably going to buy media baskets and set up a fuge and some purigen, etc. Probably adding a skimmer (well one or the other). Really the only tank I haven't figured out filtration for is the stingray tank, lol. That's 11,000 gallons I need to filter, I may downsize it but that's about where it's going to stay and with sharks and all, that's a BIG skimmer.
The other tanks are probably going to be run on DIY skimmers as well as sumps.
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Old 12-27-2015, 05:53 PM   #13
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The new plans for the stingray/small shark tank are a custom above-ground pool (will likely cost around 5 or 6 grand) that's 25 feet wide and 16 feet long and 3 feet deep - or 6,500 gallons (ish) - it's an oval tank. Still gives tons of space for inhabitants so no problems there.
So what about stocking? Well, the main reason this tank is being built is for the bigger/more active rays - a school of cownoses and a pair of southerns. On top of those, there's going to be a guitarfish and an atlantic ray just for fun. Sharks will be very basic - 4 epaulette sharks (either 2:2 or 1:3), 3 smoothhounds (0:0:3), a banded bamboo shark, a banded houndshark, 2 white spotted bamboo sharks (either 1:1 or 0:0:2), a coral cat shark, a zebra bullhead shark, and a short tailed nurse shark - okay so maybe a big list but relatively easy-to-find/cheap sharks (the bigger guys ie nurse, zebra, sharpnose, bonnethead, blacktip reef will reside in a 7,500 gallon located in my office, possibly a 10,000). I'm gonna throw in some dithers/random cool looking fish like spadefish, random damsels, chubs, monos, lookdowns, bannerfish, squirrelfish, and chromis (likely pairs or schools of each). For a cuc (probably won't survive but still) I'm going to keep crabs, snails, and starfish - starfish for the glass, crabs for physical large waste, and snails for the sand/glass (well walls). I may consider either no cownoses or like 3 or 4 and moving them into a 10,000 gallon at my office (lol if it even happens). If I also move the southerns (or just one) into that tank, that means I can pretty much halve the volume of the 6,600 gallon giving me around 3,500 gallons that I need. Which is a LOT simpler than 11,000 lol.
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Old 12-27-2015, 11:48 PM   #14
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I've been sourcing out some fish for the large tank in my office. It's going to be a 10,000 gallon tank, approximately.

For sharks, there will definitely be bonnetheads. Also there will definitely be sharpnoses - the smallest ORV shark. Dogfish are in the works too as they don't really do much. The only other ORV I trust in this tank is the finetooth shark AKA mini-bull. Take that back, blacktip reefs may work but I don't like the idea of them, just because everything else is an Atlantic shark so one type of Pacific shark doesn't make much sense now does it? For a benthic shark, I'm either going to go with a tawny nurse shark or a few short tailed nurse sharks, as they're not as piggish and large.

Rays there will be a guitarfish (maybe, undecided yet) along with a few southern rays and possibly cownose rays too.

Moving on to some other fish. I would like some sort of med/large grouper like a black or gag grouper. A green moray would be cool too but they might be able to eat some of the smaller sharks, so they might not be the best idea. Some barracudas will be in the tank, as will jack crevalle, and probably an indo pacific tarpon or two (only because of the insane size of atlantic tarpon). I am also trying to find a red drum for sale but so far I have found nothing.

To finish it off, I found someone who sells hogfish (the big pink ones you spear fish for) for like $30 so I'll get a few of those, and a school of spadefish too. There are tons of other cool schooling fish too, like lookdowns, grunts, ladyfish, pigfish, pinfish, pompano, mackerel, snapper, sheepshead, tripletails, and possibly even bonito that can be acquired for practically nothing (almost all are considered legal to use as bait and therefore legal to collect) that can be stocked and restocked as dithers. Any inverts would have a zero chance of survival in here so I'm not even going to bother with them.
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Old 12-28-2015, 10:02 PM   #15
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Keep with bigger fish smaller fish like schools of damels and Chromis will get chomped


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Keep with bigger fish smaller fish like schools of damels and Chromis will get chomped


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Yeah, thats the main reason I went with cheap fish (usually under 5 dollars). They're easily found, easily cared for, easily restocked, and provide something more than just the sharks to look at
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Lol where's the sawfish on that list?
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So if you are still in school and need to graduate, then I assume do an internship at a decent law firm to build a reputation. Then maybe make partner or break away and start your own firm. By then you should be able to afford to do all this.


so this plan is what, 10-20 years down the road?
I think you got plenty of time to work out the details.






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Yeah, thats the main reason I went with cheap fish (usually under 5 dollars). They're easily found, easily cared for, easily restocked, and provide something more than just the sharks to look at

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Just you don't want it to be easy to get restocked for fish because these fish are taking out of the ocean. Make sure the fish won't get eaten!!


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So if you are still in school and need to graduate, then I assume do an internship at a decent law firm to build a reputation. Then maybe make partner or break away and start your own firm. By then you should be able to afford to do all this.


so this plan is what, 10-20 years down the road?
I think you got plenty of time to work out the details.






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Excellent advice and this is what I plan to do soon. It's far up the road, but maybe 5 to 7 years, POSSIBLY 10. I'm about 1/4th of the way into school.

But either way I do have lots of time to work out details. I can start picking up equipment now too... if I get surplus money (so I really can't get anything now).

Found DIY skimmer plans for a 8" by 5' (I think) protein skimmer that, without the pump, is like $200 to build, plus around $175 for a Mag Drive for it. Super cheap and that thing holds like 60 gallons of water so that's a BIG skimmer.
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