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Old 10-15-2004, 05:57 PM   #1
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sump-like project for a 20 gallon?

I have been reading over the forms and could not find any info on this type of a project. My question is, can I put a 10 gallon tank under my 20 and put my protean skimmer, filter, and heater in it? I cant drill my 20 gallon. The reason for the 10 gallon idea is to add water volume and hide my protean skimmer, filter, and heater. How would I get the water from the 20 to the 10 and then back in to the 20 again? This is my first sump-like project.

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Old 10-15-2004, 08:36 PM   #2
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yes, you will need to have the 20 fish tank drilled or get a over flow box. Drilled IMO is the best way to go. Do a search on the site there are already a few posts on this subject. You could use another 20 for the sump and make a nice refugium in the middle adding extra water volume is a +++
Bigger is better for a beginner tank.... Keep doing the research.... If you don't find anything I'm sure others will jump in.
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Old 10-15-2004, 09:28 PM   #3
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:21 PM   #4
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exact question I was going to post!
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:31 PM   #5
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IMO it wouldn't be worth it to drill a 20 gallon. Breakage and price both being issues. We are building a sump/refuge for both our 90 gallons and are building our own overflows according to this post.
http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/show...threadid=35200
There are several good websites about building your own sumps, fuges and overflows from tubs and old aquariums. Research is key. They also have store bought overflows on ebay and several online stores. Again it's only my opinion about the drilling.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:14 PM   #6
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It is definitely worth it to drill any tank. All you must do is find out if it is tempered glass(you can't drill tempered glass) you can do this by simply e-mailing the manufacturer. Drilling your tank gets rid of the risk of flooding when the power goes out. If you have the option of drilling your tank then do it! I feel it is quite irresponsible to tell someone not to drill there tank if they can. BTW overflows are not cheap and even if you make your own you can get a glass shop to drill for about 10-20 bucks a hole.
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Old 11-03-2004, 04:27 PM   #7
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mine is tempered
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Old 11-03-2004, 05:06 PM   #8
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I dont think i would say it's irresponsible!!! This person clearly stated that this was only his opinion. IMO I would'nt drill a 20 gal. either. Why spend more to drill it than the tanks is worth? Thoes plastic over flow boxes ARE cheap!!!
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Yes I did say it was only my opinion and it was because a 20 gallon is just not worth much in the reef world anyways. I know alot of people have nano-reefs and they do fine, but most fish simply need more growing space than that. If you are going to spend all that money to drill, setup a sump, and buy lighting for reef life, it would make more sense(in the long run) to go ahead and get a pre-drilled tank in the 30 plus gallon range and use the 20 for the sump. I always state that my opinions are my own and that other people are entitled to take it or leave it. By the way, Firsttimer89, did you check out that website thread that I put in my original answer. We have already built a prototype and added a hole in the top of the return line just above the water in the tank. When you kill the power the syphon breaks and the tank only drains till it is below the holes in the overflow. The hoses in the overflow never break syphon, so when the power comes back on, the system starts back up with no overflowing of the tank or the sump.
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I do not have much space...
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